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  • Tim2daresq
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    #41
    Take Mayweather-Chavez for example. Mayweather out boxing on the outside and outboxing him badly. But he then willingly went onto the inside and broke him down on the inside.
    I've seen that fight, and Mayweather's doing what he always does, timing the opponent coming in, then using his elbow, and forearms to protect his head, then straight rights. Also, if you've actually watched the fight, Chavez is a grade C level fighter, that brings no type of elite skills, besides ineffective pressure, and wild swinging. Also, another thing Floyd does, like in his other fights, he's laying on the ropes, when Chavez overwhelms him with the pressure, and gets hit on the arms, and body, while rolling with the head shots, and pot shotting with the right hand. That looks cool, but isn't smart.

    Rigo does exactly what Floyd is doing, when Floyd is in the center of the ring, "in fighting", except he doesn't need to use his elbows, forearms, and gloves to parry the incoming shots, and counter. Rigo slips, and rips. He has too much power to have someone like Chavez to chase him around the ring, like Chavez was doing with Floyd. He'll turn it into a boxing match, because of his power. Watch the fight right now, and tell me how great Chavez was. Please.

    Believe it or not, this might sound OUTRAGEOUS to you, but, some fighters actually willingly fight on the inside when they don't have to. This might come as a shock to you, have a seat near incase you have to sit down. But yes, some people willingly fight on the inside. Crazy, isn't it?
    For example, who? Oh, you mean Floyd, when he can't allude his opponent anymore, and has to stand there, and use his forearms, and hold, while sneaking in a jab to the body. Or when he's against the rope, because he has no other options.

    Or do you mean Hopkins, who isn't a mover, and relies heavily on his infighting, which everyone knows. Or do you mean Whitaker, who doesn't have the power to hold you off, and goes in and out, and lands combos on you, and in fights, when he's being pressured. Or do you mean Ray Leonard against Duran, when he was forced to fight on the inside? Then in the rematch, danced circles around him, because well, that was the smart thing to do in the first place. Or do you mean when any slick fighter gets ties up, or gets tied up in a clinch, and throws some peppering shots to the body.

    You honestly have not watched Rigo fight to say that he hasn't shown an inside game.


    Pernell Whitaker is another vivid example of a fighter who could box your head off but would instead willingly go on the inside at times because he was comfortable and capable there.

    Harold Johnson is another one.

    Bernard Hopkins is another one.

    The list truly goes on and on and on.

    I don't know if it's funnier, or sad that you honestly believe that fighters only fight on the inside because they have to
    Read my comments above.

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      #42
      glimpse of rigondeaux inside game:

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      • Tim2daresq
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        #43
        Originally posted by retnuocllup
        This is a dumb as*s argument.

        As of now, we can't assume anything of Rigondo's inside game cause he hasn't shown it.

        He may very well be a genius on the inside as well. Who the f*uck knows. But mofos saying that Rigondo has an inside game when he's never shown it are pretty obtuse.

        And saying that Rigondo outside game is his inside game is also stolid. That's like saying Lebron don't need shoot 3-pointers cause he can walk into the paint and dunk every time. Mutha****ka, then how you know he can shoot 3 pointers???!!!

        Some of ya'll thick in the head as fu*ck. You can't give a mofo credit unless he actually does it. You can't give Rigondo credit for being an incredible inside fighter, when he don't ever fight on the inside.
        Such a silly argument. Do you know what an inside game is? Corrales/Castillo is an inside game. Rios has an inside game. Peterson has an inside game.

        Boxers don't have inside games like them. A majority of them tie up, and pot shot, or use their body to shield themselves, and throw quick little punches.

        Rigo does the same thing, but he doesn't need to tie up with you, or use his body to shield himself. His footwork, angles, and speed are too good for that.

        Wat do you think happens when a boxer tries to test their inside game against an inside expert? Ray Leonard/Duran happens. Guess what happened in the rematch?

        Floyd laying on the ropes, looks cool, but that's not an inside fight. It's him rolling punches, and using his gloves to block an attack, and then pot shot.

        WTF is the difference between that, and being the center of the ring, slipping a shot, and countering?

        You guys don't know what inside fighting is.

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          #44
          Originally posted by TheHolyCross
          glimpse of rigondeaux inside game:

          good video this also an example of a fighter fighting on the inside when he doesn't have to

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            #45
            Originally posted by Tim2daresq
            Such a silly argument. Do you know what an inside game is? Corrales/Castillo is an inside game. Rios has an inside game. Peterson has an inside game.

            Boxers don't have inside games like them. A majority of them tie up, and pot shot, or use their body to shield themselves, and throw quick little punches.

            Rigo does the same thing, but he doesn't need to tie up with you, or use his body to shield himself. His footwork, angles, and speed are too good for that.

            Wat do you think happens when a boxer tries to test their inside game against an inside expert? Ray Leonard/Duran happens. Guess what happened in the rematch?

            Floyd laying on the ropes, looks cool, but that's not an inside fight. It's him rolling punches, and using his gloves to block an attack, and then pot shot.

            WTF is the difference between that, and being the center of the ring, slipping a shot, and countering?

            You guys don't know what inside fighting is.
            most don't but some do.rios,castillo and corrales fight nothing alike

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              #46
              Originally posted by Tim2daresq
              I've seen that fight, and Mayweather's doing what he always does, timing the opponent coming in, then using his elbow, and forearms to protect his head, then straight rights. Also, if you've actually watched the fight, Chavez is a grade C level fighter, that brings no type of elite skills, besides ineffective pressure, and wild swinging. Also, another thing Floyd does, like in his other fights, he's laying on the ropes, when Chavez overwhelms him with the pressure, and gets hit on the arms, and body, while rolling with the head shots, and pot shotting with the right hand. That looks cool, but isn't smart.

              Rigo does exactly what Floyd is doing, when Floyd is in the center of the ring, "in fighting", except he doesn't need to use his elbows, forearms, and gloves to parry the incoming shots, and counter. Rigo slips, and rips. He has too much power to have someone like Chavez to chase him around the ring, like Chavez was doing with Floyd. He'll turn it into a boxing match, because of his power. Watch the fight right now, and tell me how great Chavez was. Please.



              For example, who? Oh, you mean Floyd, when he can't allude his opponent anymore, and has to stand there, and use his forearms, and hold, while sneaking in a jab to the body. Or when he's against the rope, because he has no other options.

              Or do you mean Hopkins, who isn't a mover, and relies heavily on his infighting, which everyone knows. Or do you mean Whitaker, who doesn't have the power to hold you off, and goes in and out, and lands combos on you, and in fights, when he's being pressured. Or do you mean Ray Leonard against Duran, when he was forced to fight on the inside? Then in the rematch, danced circles around him, because well, that was the smart thing to do in the first place. Or do you mean when any slick fighter gets ties up, or gets tied up in a clinch, and throws some peppering shots to the body.

              You honestly have not watched Rigo fight to say that he hasn't shown an inside game.




              Read my comments above.
              Jesus, you have no clue what you're watching

              Mayweather is clearly sitting in the pocket against Chavez. Because sometimes Mayweather sit's in the pocket willingly. Believe it or not.

              Is Chavez the same C Level fighter who took Erik Morales into deep water with 1 arm for half of the fight? And badly hurt him? That same C level fighter who was considered to be one of the best 130 Lbers in the world at the time?

              "Rigo does exactly what Floyd is doing, when Floyd is in the center of the ring, "in fighting"

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                #47
                Originally posted by Tim2daresq
                Such a silly argument. Do you know what an inside game is? Corrales/Castillo is an inside game. Rios has an inside game. Peterson has an inside game.

                Boxers don't have inside games like them. A majority of them tie up, and pot shot, or use their body to shield themselves, and throw quick little punches.

                Rigo does the same thing, but he doesn't need to tie up with you, or use his body to shield himself. His footwork, angles, and speed are too good for that.

                Wat do you think happens when a boxer tries to test their inside game against an inside expert? Ray Leonard/Duran happens. Guess what happened in the rematch?

                Floyd laying on the ropes, looks cool, but that's not an inside fight. It's him rolling punches, and using his gloves to block an attack, and then pot shot.

                WTF is the difference between that, and being the center of the ring, slipping a shot, and countering?

                You guys don't know what inside fighting is.
                I'm reading this, and you're basically admitting that Rigondo doesn't have an inside game.

                For me... I don't know... cause I never seen that mofo fight on the inside before.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Jesus, you have no clue what you're watching

                  Mayweather is clearly sitting in the pocket against Chavez. Because sometimes Mayweather sit's in the pocket willingly. Believe it or not.

                  Is Chavez the same C Level fighter who took Erik Morales into deep water with 1 arm for half of the fight? And badly hurt him? That same C level fighter who was considered to be one of the best 130 Lbers in the world at the time?

                  "Rigo does exactly what Floyd is doing, when Floyd is in the center of the ring, "in fighting"

                  That dude is thick as hell... Floyd has a great inside game. Not all inside game look like Castillo/Corrales. In fact, Castillo/Corrales was fought at mid-range not short-range. If you wanna see an inside fight, you gotta watch what Guerrero did to Berto or what Ward and Hopkins does. Not every inside game has too look like Chavez Sr.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Tim2daresq
                    Such a silly argument. Do you know what an inside game is? Corrales/Castillo is an inside game. Rios has an inside game. Peterson has an inside game.

                    Boxers don't have inside games like them. A majority of them tie up, and pot shot, or use their body to shield themselves, and throw quick little punches.

                    Rigo does the same thing, but he doesn't need to tie up with you, or use his body to shield himself. His footwork, angles, and speed are too good for that.

                    Wat do you think happens when a boxer tries to test their inside game against an inside expert? Ray Leonard/Duran happens. Guess what happened in the rematch?

                    Floyd laying on the ropes, looks cool, but that's not an inside fight. It's him rolling punches, and using his gloves to block an attack, and then pot shot.

                    WTF is the difference between that, and being the center of the ring, slipping a shot, and countering?

                    You guys don't know what inside fighting is.
                    I'm sorry, the irony is too much for me on this one.

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                    • Tim2daresq
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                      #50
                      Mayweather is clearly sitting in the pocket against Chavez. Because sometimes Mayweather sit's in the pocket willingly. Believe it or not.
                      Did I not say that? I said he's using his elbows, forearms, and gloves to block, then potshotting. He's not shoulder to shoulder with him like in a real inside fight. He's containing Chavez then quick right, then dip out. That's not an inside fight to me.

                      Is Chavez the same C Level fighter who took Erik Morales into deep water with 1 arm for half of the fight? And badly hurt him? That same C level fighter who was considered to be one of the best 130 Lbers in the world at the time?
                      This is the caliber of fighters Chavez was fighting before he faced Floyd.
                      32-32-7, 24-34-3, 10-20-2, 32-33-4, 51-8-2. Mind you, these are his fights leading up to Floyd. Not his beginning stage fights.

                      The guy he fought right before Floyd to get the belt, lost by KO in the 6th round to Eduardo Perez 19-13-2, only 2 fights removed from when he fought Chavez.

                      Paper fuggin champ.
                      Last edited by Tim2daresq; 04-16-2013, 05:42 PM.

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