How's your Top 10 P4P look now???

[Bolo Punch]

lol please stop your killing me

Not funny, huh?

Anyway, my real list looks like this...

1 - Ward
2 - Mayweather
3 - Marquez
4 - Martinez
5 - W. Klitschko
6 - Froch
7 - Rigondeaux
8 - Pacquiao
9 - Bradley
10 - Donaire

[!! Shawn]

#1 - Andre Ward
#2 - Guillermo Rigondeaux
#3 - Sergio Martinez
#4 - Floyd Mayweather (may go down depending how much he has left)
#5 - Nonito Donaire
#6 - Canelo Alvarez

[!! Shawn]

How do people have Ward over Marquez when JMM just knocked the #2 P4P fighter unconscious? Sure Ward won the super 6 and Dawson. But none of them of pacman and Dawson was drained.

1. Floyd
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Martinez
5. Rigo
6. Donaire
7. Bradley
8. Dawson
9. Hopkins
10. Froch



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p4p is about skill level. Who would you pick to beat Ward in a head for head matchup all things being equal?

Pacquiao is faded, Marquez is faded, neither of them would win a fight with Ward if they were all the same size, he is too fresh, to smart, and to crafty.

Its not some title where you have to get beaten to lose your ranking, its about how well you can perform now.

[daggum]

I have Mayweather 1 because he's still beating good and top ranked fighters, and even though Marquez beat Pacquiao......he got utterly dominated when he fought Mayweather. He didn't win a round in the real world, and it's not like Mayweather has lost since. Since Marquez he's beaten Mosley (#3 P4P), Ortiz (#2 147), and Cotto (#1 154). And is fighting Guerrero (#3 147).

The level if expectation for Floyd is higher than it's been for anyone. The guy fights and beats top ranked fighters, and gets s**t......anyone else in the game could fight the same exact people and would get high high high praise universally.

And even though Ward is without question one of the top 1-3 fighters in the world.....he can't overtake Floyd for beating an obviously drained Dawson. Had he gone up to 175 and won the lineal title there, and beaten Dawson up there, I would probably have moved Ward to 1.

and which one of these guys was better than the pac who he ducked? oh yeah none. not even close. FORFEIT!

[4Corners]

and which one of these guys was better than the pac who he ducked? oh yeah none. not even close. FORFEIT!

But Floyd also beat Marquez himself at the same weight Marquez beat Pac at, that has to count for something.

[Kingjames6Flee]

1) broner (more advanced than floyd was at this age by far)
2) floyd ( needs to fight canelo next it still a beast and p4p king)
3) canelo( gonna ko trout a** back to wherever he came
4) Marquez ( distorted Pacroids normal sleeping routine. Sent him night night)
5) LUCIAN bute ( he was killing froch until that controversial stoppage. Froch got lucky and ducking the rematch. Had it a shutout in favor of bute before the ko.)
6) danny garcia ( Judah getting put in a body bag and then matthyse next)
7) rigo ( schooled the Filipino flash and proved he wasn't just hyped)
8) mikey garcia ( dudes a beast and has unexpected power.
9) chaves jr ( wasn't focused vs martinez could've koed his ass easily as seen in round 12)
10) tim bradley( I love Timmy has so much heart)


Ward, sergio,PAC and nonito are just awful. Ward just headbuttsthroughout the whole fight as noted be Kessler, Martinez ran from chaves, PAC sleeps during fights and nonito disappointed me.

[El Angel]

1) broner (more advanced than floyd was at this age by far)
2) floyd ( needs to fight canelo next it still a beast and p4p king)
3) canelo( gonna ko trout a** back to wherever he came
4) Marquez ( distorted Pacroids normal sleeping routine. Sent him night night)
5) LUCIAN bute ( he was killing froch until that controversial stoppage. Froch got lucky and ducking the rematch. Had it a shutout in favor of bute before the ko.)
6) danny garcia ( Judah getting put in a body bag and then matthyse next)
7) rigo ( schooled the Filipino flash and proved he wasn't just hyped)
8) mikey garcia ( dudes a beast and has unexpected power.
9) chaves jr ( wasn't focused vs martinez could've koed his ass easily as seen in round 12)
10) tim bradley( I love Timmy has so much heart)


Ward, sergio,PAC and nonito are just awful. Ward just headbuttsthroughout the whole fight as noted be Kessler, Martinez ran from chaves, PAC sleeps during fights and nonito disappointed me.

I don't even know what to say.....

[4Corners]

1. Manuel Charr
2. Tavoris Cloud
3. Alexander Povetkin
4. Roy Jones Jr
5. Kimbo Slice
6. Paul Spadafora
7. Anthony Mundine
8. Francisco Pianeta
9. Ronald Hearns
10. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr

[daggum]

But Floyd also beat Marquez himself at the same weight Marquez beat Pac at, that has to count for something.

when you forfeit that means you do not win. if the 49ers forfeited the super bowl to the ravens do they still win if they say "well we beat the team that beat the ravens earlier!" bunch of pansy talk.

[letsgobrady]

when you forfeit that means you do not win. if the 49ers forfeited the super bowl to the ravens do they still win if they say "well we beat the team that beat the ravens earlier!" bunch of pansy talk.

i thought pacquiao forfeited