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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #11
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Kessler was probably at his career worst coming into the fight against Froch. He has improved a lot since then, his jab is sharper, he's gone back to the straight 1-2 as you saw against Magee. Uses body punches again (to be fair that worked great against Froch in the first fight) - So i don't really see how you can say he has regressed. There's no evidence of that.
    His level of opposition has been terrible, TERRIBLE, and Allen Green almost sparked him out.

    Hi's KO's have been decent but he's been fighting domestic level opponents.

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    • LacedUp
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      #12
      Originally posted by Earl Hickey
      His level of opposition has been terrible, TERRIBLE, and Allen Green almost sparked him out.

      Hi's KO's have been decent but he's been fighting domestic level opponents.
      TERRIBLE? Allan Green, a super six fighter, Bouadla (comeback fight, but EBU champion) and Magee coming off a good couple of wins and WBA champ? It's not THAT terrible.

      Froch fought Bute and Mack since losing badly to Ward. I've tried to make this point before, but the difference in opposition isn't as vast as people make it out.

      And Earl, you know Green wasn't close to "spark him out". He wasn't even hurt and it was more a case of bad balance than anything else.

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        #13
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        TERRIBLE? Allan Green, a super six fighter, Bouadla (comeback fight, but EBU champion) and Magee coming off a good couple of wins and WBA champ? It's not THAT terrible.

        Froch fought Bute and Mack since losing badly to Ward. I've tried to make this point before, but the difference in opposition isn't as vast as people make it out.

        And Earl, you know Green wasn't close to "spark him out". He wasn't even hurt and it was more a case of bad balance than anything else.
        even the great and powerful joe calzaghe couldn't drop kessler. green must be one of the biggest punchers ever.

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          #14
          Originally posted by daggum
          even the great and powerful joe calzaghe couldn't drop kessler. green must be one of the biggest punchers ever.
          Neither could Froch.

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            #15
            My mistake...London. Still, the same suggestion is implied. If Kesser doesn't KO Froch, then it's going to be nearly impossible for Kessler to get a decision in Froch's backyard. It's not being negative or pessimistic. It's being a realist. Let's not forget we're talking about boxing now. Sadly, corruption still runs rampant in this beloved sport.
            Last edited by GodInFleshSuit; 04-08-2013, 04:58 AM.

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              #16
              Lets look at Carl's opponents,Mack and Bute since losing badly against Ward an struggling past Johnson,nearly two years ago,if anyone has aged its Froch.
              Had Kessler have fought Stieglitz and Bute as was planned,before injury and Froch getting to the bum Bute first,the bookkeepers would have an whole new outlook on this fight.Kessler is too slick and intelligent for Frochs caveman approach.there is no gulf in opposition,in the last three years,Magee maybe he wasn't a real champion but he was mandatory challenger for a reason before being handed the title,Green a tough seasoned operator knocked out cold,KO of the year for me.home advantage won't mean **** with 5k vociferous Danes in attendance,they'll have more to cheer and celebrate with Mikkel's ruthless efficiency,the Brits will be silenced.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Bon Scott
                Lets look at Carl's opponents,Mack and Bute since losing badly against Ward an struggling past Johnson,nearly two years ago,if anyone has aged its Froch.
                Had Kessler have fought Stieglitz and Bute as was planned,before injury and Froch getting to the bum Bute first,the bookkeepers would have an whole new outlook on this fight.Kessler is too slick and intelligent for Frochs caveman approach.there is no gulf in opposition,in the last three years,Magee maybe he wasn't a real champion but he was mandatory challenger for a reason before being handed the title,Green a tough seasoned operator knocked out cold,KO of the year for me.home advantage won't mean **** with 5k vociferous Danes in attendance,they'll have more to cheer and celebrate with Mikkel's ruthless efficiency,the Brits will be silenced.
                ROFL

                you done goofed, son

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bon Scott
                  Lets look at Carl's opponents,Mack and Bute since losing badly against Ward an struggling past Johnson,nearly two years ago,if anyone has aged its Froch.
                  Had Kessler have fought Stieglitz and Bute as was planned,before injury and Froch getting to the bum Bute first,the bookkeepers would have an whole new outlook on this fight.Kessler is too slick and intelligent for Frochs caveman approach.there is no gulf in opposition,in the last three years,Magee maybe he wasn't a real champion but he was mandatory challenger for a reason before being handed the title,Green a tough seasoned operator knocked out cold,KO of the year for me.home advantage won't mean **** with 5k vociferous Danes in attendance,they'll have more to cheer and celebrate with Mikkel's ruthless efficiency,the Brits will be silenced.
                  froch is much slicker than kessler. he can actually slip punches while kessler has no head movement at all. froch ko 1. guaranteed. hatton says to bet your house.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    froch is much slicker than kessler. he can actually slip punches while kessler has no head movement at all. froch ko 1. guaranteed. hatton says to bet your house.
                    While Obviously it won't be KO1 you are correct about Froch being slicker.

                    He's the more skilled, versatile fighter.

                    People look at the squared up, jab first european textbook style of Kessler and confuse that with Skill.

                    I associate skill with the ability to adapt on the fly and use a variety of different tactics and that's Froch, far more versatile. Kessler is just the same in every fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      froch is much slicker than kessler. he can actually slip punches while kessler has no head movement at all. froch ko 1. guaranteed. hatton says to bet your house.
                      Hatton told us to bet his house on him beating Maywether,had we have done we'd be homeless ! I'll pass on his recommendations.

                      Originally posted by Earl Hickey
                      While Obviously it won't be KO1 you are correct about Froch being slicker.

                      He's the more skilled, versatile fighter.

                      People look at the squared up, jab first european textbook style of Kessler and confuse that with Skill.

                      I associate skill with the ability to adapt on the fly and use a variety of different tactics and that's Froch, far more versatile. Kessler is just the same in every fight.
                      Ability to adapt ? Did you watch him vs Johnson or Ward ? Silly question,obviously you didn't,silly me.

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