without Pac, JMM doesn't really have much of a legacy
So who will be remembered as the greater fighter, Pacquiao or Marquez?
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i dont understand why people say marquez was robbed 3 times.
the first fight pac should have won but it was ruled a draw
the second fight i had a draw but pac got the win
third fight was a landslide for marquez imo and the only fight i believe he got 'robbed' in
the fourth fight was close till pac got ktfo
but to answer ur question, pac will go down as the better fighter. his resume is greaterComment
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These two fighters are definitely both certified first ballot HOF and ATGs. The only way I could think of rating them is by taking them out of each others resume and compare what's left. I would say Pac has the better resume even without the 3 controversial decisions and the KTFOHEFLDOFH he received in the last fight.
Both men will be talked about hand in hand years from now. Just like Ali-Frazier.
We're so lucky to be living during these two fighters era.Comment
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Nor could PAC without juiceresume wise, its pacquiao. but ofcourse marquez will always be mention in the same breath. style per style pacquiao can also beat the fighters marquez can beat. he is just tailor made for marquez. his height, his reach, his aggressiveness/mentality and patience. and ofcourse, marquez is very smart enough to take advantage of all of it. the only things that made it all close fights are because of pacquiao's physical talent and determination.
he was thoroughly outbox by marquez, but never cooled down on his work rate.
i dont think marquez can beat the margarito that pacquiao fought.Comment
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That's funny that you say that! Although he is starting out, Gary Russel Jr does seem to fight smarter than Manny does in his fights. He might not have no where near the names and caliber of fighters as Manny does but as far as just technical skills of boxing, yes he may be more skilled than him. Manny is too reckless and when you frustrate him he lunges in horribly off balance. So when you're trying ask a question to make a point about Pac being more skilled at least make sure he can master basic balance before you try speaking on skills. Just a thought.How about Gary Russell Jr, he might be more skilled than Pac, no?
If JMM's better, you'd think he would have used his ability to beat better fighters, making loads of cash along the way. But he didn't, he struggled plenty with the likes of Kats, Diaz, washed up Casa and well past prime Barrera.
Remove Pac from his resume, what are his 2 top wins?
Marquez IS the better fighter, that's clear to anyone who knows what they're looking at. If Pac was as skillful as you claim then how in the hell after as many fights as he had, he has yet to figure out how to make an adjustment against a guy who he's fought more than anyone else? Marquez makes adjustment after adjustment when facing Pac. Pac just fights harder but has shown that he is incapable of fighting smarter. Yeah Marquez struggled and came thru and knocked out 3 of those 4 fighters and was close to putting Barrera away for a minute. When Marquez struggles its because a fighter has figured out a way to bother him, when Pac struggles, more than half of the time its his own doing.
Removing Pac or not removing him, what difference does it make when were talking skills? I said clearly that if were talking accomplishments then its Manny, but if were talking skills of a better fighter then its Marquez !Comment
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Both ATGs but I have so many issues with what ATG, his behavior was as bad as Floyd to me, you could argue he has titles in a 8 classes but really it's 6 cause two were at catchweights, I'll remember JMM much better.Comment
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