Cotto-Trout conclusions

**Cuauht�moc1520** · 04-05-2013, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by egodfather

I've just seen this fight and the way I saw it was as follows;

Trout was bigger, faster and stronger than Cotto. All that coming from a cagey southpaw stance and the guy didn't want to fight until the later rounds when Cotto was fading. By this stage, Cotto has tried to pin Trout but he was too slippery.

I don't really see it as that bad of a loss for Cotto. I'm not sure 154 is the right weight for Cotto either, he looks a touch too small. He's past his peak but he still has a good fight or two on him given the right style. Trout was just bad matchmaking.

I see Canelo beating Trout.

I agree with everything and will add that Cotto is too small for 154 but I don't know if he can make 147 in a good way anymore.

That may sound contradictory but at 154 he's not the powerful, come forward fighter he was at 147. So he will stay at 154 but he can't bully people anymore.

**Big_L** · 04-05-2013, 08:02 AM

cotto was beating trout half way through and gassed horribly and didn't win another round. his stamina was much better against mayweather. i think diaz messed up with that altitude training like virgil hunter said. thats why i'm not completely sold on trout. and i'm not completely sold on cotto being done.

**Dr Rumack** · 04-05-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Big_L

cotto was beating trout half way through and gassed horribly and didn't win another round. his stamina was much better against mayweather. i think diaz messed up with that altitude training like virgil hunter said. thats why i'm not completely sold on trout. and i'm not completely sold on cotto being done.

I agree that he seemed to fade but I don't think he was much better against Mayweather. In that fight, he shot his bolt in Rd 8 and he really wilted from their onwards. Against Trout the last round I have him winning is Rd 7 after which he faded. So while stamina was an issue I don't think it was a bigger issue than it had been previously.

**Big_L** · 04-05-2013, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by Dr Rumack

I agree that he seemed to fade but I don't think he was much better against Mayweather. In that fight, he shot his bolt in Rd 8 and he really wilted from their onwards. Against Trout the last round I have him winning is Rd 7 after which he faded. So while stamina was an issue I don't think it was a bigger issue than it had been previously.

maybe but i think cotto was fighting mayweather at a faster pace. i don't know the punch stats but he seemed to be throwing a lot more punches vs. mayweather and i think he was taking more.

**Cuauht�moc1520** · 04-05-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by Dr Rumack

I agree that he seemed to fade but I don't think he was much better against Mayweather. In that fight, he shot his bolt in Rd 8 and he really wilted from their onwards. Against Trout the last round I have him winning is Rd 7 after which he faded. So while stamina was an issue I don't think it was a bigger issue than it had been previously.

I have watched Cotto vs Mayweather a few times and I think people overestimate what Cotto did in that fight. I had him winning 4 rounds clearly, there were other close rounds but Mayweather was dominant in that fight.

Cotto landed the jab well but not much else, he couldn't get his left hook off and the right hand was non existent. He was finally countered with the right uppercut and that changed the fight.

Trout vs Cotto was closer but Trout was winning most of the exchanges and moving very well. Cotto didn't look to have the power to hurt him and was plodding forward in a way I haven't seen before and that could very well be stamina.

Cotto is not the same anymore, there's no doubt about that and if he's looking for Martinez or Canelo, he's going to receive a terrible beating by either one.

**solo20** · 04-05-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by egodfather

I've just seen this fight and the way I saw it was as follows;

Trout was bigger, faster and stronger than Cotto. All that coming from a cagey southpaw stance and the guy didn't want to fight until the later rounds when Cotto was fading. By this stage, Cotto has tried to pin Trout but he was too slippery.

I don't really see it as that bad of a loss for Cotto. I'm not sure 154 is the right weight for Cotto either, he looks a touch too small. He's past his peak but he still has a good fight or two on him given the right style. Trout was just bad matchmaking.

I see Canelo beating Trout.

the main problem is not Cotto size he makes that up with boxing skills the promblem is His dam weak LUNGS at best the guy is a 8 round figther

**daggum** · 04-05-2013, 10:14 AM

cotto was doing well through the first 6 rounds when he pressured trout but then his laziness and fat rolls came back to bite him similar to how he bit all those donuts during "training camp"

**Bushbaby** · 04-05-2013, 10:45 AM

It was the same Cotto he's always been at 154. The same Cotto he was earlier in 2012. Put up the same performance, (which was competitive) until he gassed. Trout now, well he put up an excellent performance (in Miguel Cotto's backyard). He showed his desire and skill that night. The 1st and only man to beat Cotto in NY.

**B.U.R.N.E.R** · 04-05-2013, 10:58 AM

He was actually beating Trout comfortably then faded. Trout/Cotto was a close but clear Trout win. I gave Cotto 3 rounds against Floyd he gave a good account of himself but Floyd dominated him.

Cotto-Trout conclusions