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  • Ray*
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    #41
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    There is no doubt he's been ducked by most of the top ten. not sure why this is so hard for you to admit. And we'll probably see why vs Macklin, as you seem to agree.
    Am not even going to get into the he was ducked stuff again, like I said from day one, Sturm was the only fighter that I could stand on and say yes he ducked him, the rest nope. People looking at other options or other lucrative offers, or the timing etc coming off injuries etc. Boxing is about timing too, the world does not revolve around GGG, he came to the USA in September and after fighting Proksa, rosado and Ishida he would be getting his chance at exposure (that's not ducking) period, and yes GGG would beat Macklin and like I said you guys tried your best to put people off him, am just glad we have a MW who can put, take a punch and entertain because am a boxing fan not a fanboy.

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    • HeroBando
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Am not even going to get into the he was ducked stuff again, like I said from day one, Sturm was the only fighter that I could stand on and say yes he ducked him, the rest nope. People looking at other options or other lucrative offers, or the timing etc coming off injuries etc. Boxing is about timing too, the world does not revolve around GGG, he came to the USA in September and after fighting Proksa, rosado and Ishida he would be getting his chance at exposure (that's not ducking) period, and yes GGG would beat Macklin and like I said you guys tried your best to put people off him, am just glad we have a MW who can put, take a punch and entertain because am a boxing fan not a fanboy.
      Well you don't see me saying he'll destroy Ward or Martinez or Froch, only Macklin, not so controversial. I step in when people whine, when is he gonna step up against guys like A, B, C. So I show them a link that A, B, C passed on multiple offers, usually much better than what else was available (except in terms of getting ass kicked). Some guys are receptive to evidence, but I see a few that will ignore it happily and keep asking the same question.

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        #43
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Where do you see me picking on Macklin? I give him props for going in against all odds. As for me saying it's gonna be ugly for him, that's not hating, that's the opinion of 95% of NSB, including windups like Ray and probably you. I allow that he's smart enough to recognize that, as his words would imply. So why are you picking a fight again?
        I'm picking Golovkin, but I respect Macklin enough not to think he has to be "dumb" to think he's capable of winning. Obvious he knows he's the underdog, but saying Macklin knows he's going in to take a beating and lose is another thing. By saying he's know's he's going to lose, you're basically implying he was scared of Golovkin all this time (and hey, you were right all along. he was ducking!).

        Macklin losing this fight would make 3 Ls on his record out of this last 4 fights, which would hurt is career greatly. He's not an aging Ishida who has nothing to lose and is just in it for the paycheck. Macklin is capable of having a full career ahead of him that would go perfectly fine without ever having to face Golovkin. Nobody forced him. He could wait out and fight the easier title holders. He could have big fights with the other British middleweights. And he had the opportunity to fight Chavez, but took Golovkin instead. He's obviously taking this fight with the intention to win, not to take a beating.

        But no, he's still scared and know she's going to lose and its the reason why he was ducking!
        Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 04-04-2013, 03:29 PM.

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        • Ray*
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          #44
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Well you don't see me saying he'll destroy Ward or Martinez or Froch, only Macklin, not so controversial. I step in when people whine, when is he gonna step up against guys like A, B, C. So I show them a link that A, B, C passed on multiple offers, usually much better than what else was available (except in terms of getting ass kicked). Some guys are receptive to evidence, but I see a few that will ignore it happily and keep asking the same question.
          I wouldn't even have a problem with you if you claim he beats all of them, the word duck is the most over used word around here. Like I said you can show your evidence in support of him being duck but there are reasons why fights don't happen when YOU want them to happen and it has nothing to do with ducking, at the end of the day the fight is happening, whether he turned it down in April..December or June it's irrelevant because the fight is happening and it puts your evidence to shame.

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            #45
            I will fly to New York for this one, this will be Gennady's jumping off point as I predicted to much bigger and better things for him. GGG by KO within 6 rds.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
              I'm picking Golovkin, but I respect Macklin enough not to think he has to be "dumb" to think he's capable of winning. Obvious he knows he's the underdog, but saying Macklin knows he's going in to take a beating and lose is another thing. By saying he's know's he's going to lose, you're basically implying he was scared of Golovkin all this time (and hey, you were right all along. he was ducking!).

              Macklin losing this fight would make 3 Ls on his record out of this last 4 fights, which would hurt is career greatly. He's not an aging Ishida who has nothing to lose and is just in it for the paycheck. Macklin is capable of having a full career ahead of him that would go perfectly fine without ever having to face Golovkin. Nobody forced him. He could wait out and fight the easier title holders. He could have big fights with the other British middleweights. And he had the opportunity to fight Chavez, but took Golovkin instead. He's obviously taking this fight with the intention to win, not to take a beating.

              But no, he's still scared and know she's going to lose and its the reason why he was ducking!
              As you saw from that interview, they've been pushing that fight on him for a month. Yes, that includes LDB who's promoting the card, but unless his MW contender is willing, he's only got fighters on the undercard. I don't really know what would be the alternative for Macklin, if he passed this time. I think HBO is about to make it harder for all these guys to keep ducking him, unless they stay abroad or sign with GBP.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (26-0, 23KOs) is likely to defend his titles against Matthew Macklin (29-4, 20KOs), subject to contracts, on June 29th in the main event of an HBO televised tripleheader in New York. Golovkin is blowing through the division like a tornado and the Kazakhstan bomber's reputation that he has become one of the most avoided men at 160-pounds. He already stopped Gabe Rosado and Nobuhiro Ishida since the start of the year.

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                two of my favourite guys at the weight, well I guess I'm honour bound to support macklin but if GGG wins I won't be too upset

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                • Ray*
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  As you saw from that interview, they've been pushing that fight on him for a month. Yes, that includes LDB who's promoting the card, but unless his MW contender is willing, he's only got fighters on the undercard. I don't really know what would be the alternative for Macklin, if he passed this time. I think HBO is about to make it harder for all these guys to keep ducking him, unless they stay abroad or sign with GBP.
                  HBO can't do ***** to Macklin, Macklin has been offered a showdown with Barker, lee and Martin Murray over here in the UK, so this has nothing to do with HBO forcing anyone to fight GGG lol. Now you taking it to the extreme.

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    HBO can't do ***** to Macklin, Macklin has been offered a showdown with Barker, lee and Martin Murray over here in the UK, so this has nothing to do with HBO forcing anyone to fight GGG lol. Now you taking it to the extreme.
                    Macklin offered fights to Lee and Lemieux recently and got rebuffed. Murray is unavailable, and Barker has bigger fish to fry for early summer.

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                    • DoktorSleepless
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Macklin offered fights to Lee and Lemieux recently and got rebuffed. Murray is unavailable, and Barker has bigger fish to fry for early summer.
                      Macklin said the Lemieux rumors were false. And Barker was calling out Macklin earlier in the year before the Barker got the Chavez call. If they can't happen in June, they could hold them in some other time. The point is that he has options outside of HBO. He doesn't need HBO as bad as some other fighters. He has 3 other British middleweights that he could eventually fight and they would all be huge fights over there.
                      Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 04-04-2013, 03:55 PM.

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