Will Golovkin actually fight a Middleweight next?

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  • mathed
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    #51
    Originally posted by Danny Gunz
    GGG is a guy that has openly challenged and made efforts to fight everyone in the MW division yet has been continually ducked. You would think a Sergio fan of all people would have appreciated that.

    I guess if he got to fight Dzincurk, Martin Murray, or Darren Barker maybe you would approve of him.

    Seriously though you are the biggest pussy ever. Your dumbass troll/unfunny sarcastic responses are so ****ty and ignorant.
    Broh, no need to be mad, those are female feelings. I'm trying to help perhaps the best up and coming boxer since Tyson to get the opportunities that he needs. We have seen so many top talents in this sport go to waste and Golovkin is on the wrong side of 30 already, I hope you can at least agree that his time to shine is limited.

    With the potential that he has and the fact that no one at 160 will face him, he needs to make a move for the better. HBO won't approve of these slub 154 retirees and they basically do nothing for his career. I'm with you on the idea that these dudes are scared, I mean what, do you expect me not to try and defend Sergio? I don't want to see Sergio hurt unlike others here and DiBella is gonna duck and jive Golovkin until the cows come home, we all know it.

    So let's get this man some real competition and the only way to do that is to move up where hopefully someone has the balls to face him.

    I mean you do want to see Golovkin represented in the best way possible and to finally get the title shots he deserves right? Well that obviously isn't happening at 160 now is it?

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    • Danny Gunz
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      #52
      Originally posted by chiguy91
      the top guys at MW didn't give him a shot, so he had to fight two average 154 lbers? he could have gone after other MWs. hell, martinez is fighting his wba mando next. hbo did approve of proksa, so i don't see why they couldn't/can't approve of someone like adama, rubio, or soliman in june. hell, even vera, he has a solid win against dzinziruk and is a legit MW. i'm sure there's guys out there now (there was before with guerrero) that would take the opportunity of fighting golovkin on hbo. chavez jr has options between barker, macklin, and vera for his return fight. loeffler can certainly offer the two who don't get the chavez fight an hbo spot against golovkin. they just need to offer a reasonable sum. barker's promoter said it best, he's there to get barker the most money. with gbp out of the picture, hbo has a bigger opportunity to really push golovkin. i'm sure k2 promos can also gather some money to put on the table to really entice these fighters to get in the ring with their guy.

      dzinziruk, barker, macklin, and murray>>>ouma, proksa, rosado, and ishida you clown.

      i love how these golovkin cum guzzlers act like martinez has been spoonfed for years. he just got his big break (payday) in his last fight. before that, he couldn't sell shit out and couldn't get the more known/top names in the ring with him. he had to fight guys who were willing and hbo would approve of.
      also, martinez was noticed at 154. no one there besides williams wanted to fight him. vernon forrest even got stripped of his wbc strap for not fighting martinez. that story sounds familiar right? like sturm/geale and golovkin with the wba titles. when martinez couldn't get the top guys at 154, what did he do? martinez moved up to MW when he was 35 years old and 48 pro bouts in the bank. golovkin's only 30 with 26 pro fights.

      i want to see martinez/golovkin as much as the next guy, but i'm not holding my breath for it. golovkin has a little more work to do (top 10-15 MWs to face) until he can truly say the entire division is ducking him. guys like martinez, quillin, and geale are just looking for paydays while they're in a position to demand one. you can't really blame them. at the end of the day, all these men are prizefighters. they fight for money. like arum said to dibella before being forced by the wbc to fight martinez, "get off your ass, build martinez up!". after all, martinez/chavez didn't happen overnight.


      Literally everything you just said is wrong in one way or another so I wont bother going through your post.

      I will say though my main point was that Golovkin is so blatantly avoided as a high risk low reward guy that at the very least Sergio Martinez fans should appreciate it.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #53
        Originally posted by Danny Gunz


        Literally everything you just said is wrong in one way or another so I wont bother going through your post.

        I will say though my main point was that Golovkin is so blatantly avoided as a high risk low reward guy that at the very least Sergio Martinez fans should appreciate it.
        They dont anymore because he's become one of the avoiders

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          #54
          Originally posted by Danny Gunz


          Literally everything you just said is wrong in one way or another so I wont bother going through your post.

          I will say though my main point was that Golovkin is so blatantly avoided as a high risk low reward guy that at the very least Sergio Martinez fans should appreciate it.
          no, what i said is completely right. so because golovkin is avoided by the top guys, that means he has to fight guys who fight at 154? that makes sense. he has two belts at 160, if the other champs don't want to unify, he can stay defending his titles against his mandatories. you're from philly, you should know a little something about MWs defending their title(s) against mandos.

          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          They dont anymore because he's become one of the avoiders
          no, i like golovkin. i just don't like how his fans feel like he's entitled to everything when he hasn't done much. like i told danny gunz, because the other champs don't want to unify, that gives him the right to fight rosado and ishida type of fighters? i'm sure if he tried fighting his mandatories, most would step up (especially if hbo, showtime, or espn2 televise it.) martinez too wanted to unify titles with sturm and geale, but they declined him. what did he do? he kept fighting MWs like barker and macklin until he got a guy like chavez jr cornered into fighting him or being stripped of his title (like what happened with him at 154 with forrest). all i'm saying is it takes time for some fighters to get those big opportunities, golovkin has more work to do. whether you want to accept that or not, that's on you.
          Last edited by chiguy91; 03-31-2013, 11:26 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by chiguy91
            no, what i said is completely right. so because golovkin is avoided by the top guys, that means he has to fight guys who fight at 154? that makes sense. he has two belts at 160, if the other champs don't want to unify, he can stay defending his titles against his mandatories. you're from philly, you should know a little something about MWs defending their title(s) against mandos.
            Many of the guys you suggested for him to fight his camp has tried to make the fight but it hasn't worked for one reason or another. Basically what pisses me off is people are discrediting GGG for not fighting better opposition when he has openly tried his best to get the opponents like Sergio or Paul Williams in the recent past.

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              #56
              Originally posted by mathed
              if golovkin wasn't so good, guys would be willing to fight him. He breaks lhw's down with ease in sparring or crying out loud. I feel that guys at 154 and 160 simply do not have a chance against him and he should beat up on the top guys at 168 like bute, ward, froch, and kessler. I think he is the p4p best and most powerful guy in the entire game and can unify all divisions up to lhw if he moves up. If he agrees to certain terms, i think ward might face him and i favor 3g by ko in under 5 rounds.
              Originally posted by jloro
              stop your asking too much from the god of war.



              The announcer of the fight yesterday actually called him the second greatest fighter in the world behind pacquiao.... Did anybody else hear him say it? It was actually funny.
              lol.............

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              • Danny Gunz
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                #57
                Originally posted by pitbull puppy
                lol.............
                Why dont you like Golovkin?

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                • chiguy91
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                  Many of the guys you suggested for him to fight his camp has tried to make the fight but it hasn't worked for one reason or another. Basically what pisses me off is people are discrediting GGG for not fighting better opposition when he has openly tried his best to get the opponents like Sergio or Paul Williams in the recent past.
                  the only thing i'm discrediting is the praise he gets for fighting against smaller/lesser fighters. rosado is a 154 lb contender, and ishida is a 154/160 lber journeyman. i absolutely loved the proksa win and was hyped for him. the only thing i don't like is how people criticize the other champs in the division for not giving him an immediate fight. things take time. martinez's success didn't happen overnight, so why are people expecting golovkin to be given everything so quickly.
                  there's a good number of MW contenders out there, now that golovkin has more attention, i think more fighters will consider taking a fight with him this june. before in september and january, it was a riskier fight to take, at least imo. next time golovkin fights, more people are going to tune in, which will give his opponent a chance to get some exposure. i expect more guys to be in negotiations for golovkin's next fight.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                    Why dont you like Golovkin?
                    I do not dislike him at all,but it is funny how the same people who hype him for beating up on journeymen,criticize other fighters for fighting top fighters in their division...hell he isnt even fighting top fighters in the division below him and wont fight the ones above him either

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                    • Russian Crushin
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by chiguy91

                      no, i like golovkin. i just don't like how his fans feel like he's entitled to everything when he hasn't done much. like i told danny gunz, because the other champs don't want to unify, that gives him the right to fight rosado and ishida type of fighters? i'm sure if he tried fighting his mandatories, most would step up (especially if hbo, showtime, or espn2 televise it.) martinez too wanted to unify titles with sturm and geale, but they declined him. what did he do? he kept fighting MWs like barker and macklin until he got a guy like chavez jr cornered into fighting him or being stripped of his title (like what happened with him at 154 with forrest). all i'm saying is it takes time for some fighters to get those big opportunities, golovkin has more work to do. whether you want to accept that or not, that's on you.
                      Entitled to what? A fight with Quillin, Gaele, Macklin? Cmon how can you support all of these guy ducking Golovkin i dont understand. Its not 1 top guy like Sergio, its all of them, 13 of them and they take crappier fights instead. Wake up, stop supporting bull**** excuses to not fight a top guy. Fight his mandatories? Look at who are the top contenders to his title, they are his duckers and he doesnt have a mando

                      Golovkin is not asking for big opportunities, he cant get a top 15 guy, are they all big mayweather type superfights? No, most of them dont even headline their own cards, what a joke

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