IMO Golovkin won't get a fight with Martinez

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  • HeroBando
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    #31
    Originally posted by mathed
    Brian Vera, Macklin, Rubio, and Andy Lee (i believe) all recently stated that they would like to fight him........I guess Ishida was a more legit opponent than let's say Adama, Bursak, Lemieux, or Guerrero (who I believe also called him out recently)

    Nothing wrong with an easy fight but don't act like there are absolutely NO options at MW and that every single guy turned him down. I personally only know of like 3 or 4 guys that said no.
    Macklin has passed on multiple dates, and is trying to wriggle out of the next one. Rubio also passed on the january date, and is being steered in another direction. Andy Lee, I highly doubt he called him out. Did you just see him go life and death with a ham and egger? So we're left with Vera, already vetoed once by HBO, hope not.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      The top 15 top MWs are collectively dont want to fight Golovkin...

      Do you not see the ridiculous contradiction?
      No I don't see any contradiction, if nobody wants to fight GGG like you claim then he can retire simple, I refuse to subscribe to your way of thinking. If Geale want to take another fight because he sees a better way of making more money in another fight then sure why not, does that mean he is ducking GGG nope, if K2 want they can make a great offer to counter whatever Geale would make, the list you just show me meh...only Sturm actually ducked him, the rest is just hearsay with no facts to back up the "Everyone is ducking" GGG... I have done my search and find out that promoters were able to get their boxers a better offer than K2 were offering so meh, He would get his chance am sure but it takes two to tango.
      Last edited by Ray*; 03-30-2013, 09:18 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ray*
        No I don't see any contradiction, if nobody wants to fight GGG like you claim then he can retire simple, I refuse to subscribe to your way of thinking. If Geale want to take another fight because he sees a better way of making more money in another fight then sure why not, does that mean he is ducking GGG nope, if K2 want they can make a great offer to counter whatever Geale would make, the list you just show me meh...only Sturm actually ducked him, the rest is just hearsay with no facts to back up the "Everyone is ducking" GGG... I have done my search and find out that promoters were able to get their boxers a better offer than K2 were offering so meh, He would get his chance am sure but it takes two to tango.
        HBO pays the purses. You think Geale makes better money vs Soliman? How about the rest of the contenders, minus Chavez? Macklin took like 75k for Alcine when the guys on GGG Proksa undercard made 125k+, and he was approached before Proksa. Even made it big Quillin has never been beyond Showtime undercard.

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          #34
          fighting guerrero instead of golovking smh. fighting murray instead of golovking smh. fans pretending those fights make more money and therefore its ok smh.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Ray*
            No I don't see any contradiction, if nobody wants to fight GGG like you claim then he can retire simple, I refuse to subscribe to your way of thinking. If Geale want to take another fight because he sees a better way of making more money in another fight then sure why not, does that mean he is ducking GGG nope, if K2 want they can make a great offer to counter whatever Geale would make, the list you just show me meh...only Sturm actually ducked him, the rest is just hearsay with no facts to back up the "Everyone is ducking" GGG... I have done my search and find out that promoters were able to get their boxers a better offer than K2 were offering so meh, He would get his chance am sure but it takes two to tango.
            So who wants to fight Golovkin, please name a few. Subscribe to my way of thinking? Look at the post with all the excuse and tell me how its my way of thinking. That is over several years for several of those guys, years!

            Yea i know you're their manager and care about their bank account rather then seeing the best fights.

            only sturm ducked him. 3 guys dropped a built not to face him, a belt!

            Better offers = easier fights. Guerrero, murray, Soloiman, alcine, Barker are better offers? this is laughable, how can you call yourself a fan?

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              #36
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              HBO pays the purses. You think Geale makes better money vs Soliman? How about the rest of the contenders, minus Chavez? Macklin took like 75k for Alcine when the guys on GGG Proksa undercard made 125k+, and he was approached before Proksa. Even made it big Quillin has never been beyond Showtime undercard.
              They can alway revisit fighters that they have approached before, making a fight is about a lot of things, money, timing, coming back from a loss, weight, promoters etc And didn't someone say Macklin took 50K for Alcine? Now it's 75K? Ok

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                #37
                Originally posted by Ray*
                They can alway revisit fighters that they have approached before, making a fight is about a lot of things, money, timing, coming back from a loss, weight, promoters etc And didn't someone say Macklin took 50K for Alcine? Now it's 75K? Ok
                Its was 50K, good catch, No way he would get that much to Headline HBO vs Golovkin in Sept

                Best offer baby

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  No I don't see any contradiction, if nobody wants to fight GGG like you claim then he can retire simple, I refuse to subscribe to your way of thinking. If Geale want to take another fight because he sees a better way of making more money in another fight then sure why not, does that mean he is ducking GGG nope, if K2 want they can make a great offer to counter whatever Geale would make, the list you just show me meh...only Sturm actually ducked him, the rest is just hearsay with no facts to back up the "Everyone is ducking" GGG... I have done my search and find out that promoters were able to get their boxers a better offer than K2 were offering so meh, He would get his chance am sure but it takes two to tango.
                  How many times are you going to need the facts explained to you? This isn't "hearsay". Ndam didn't show up for the purse bid. Geale was stripped his title. Quillin says in the future it would be a good fight (not now). We can go down the list again and again.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                    Who has beating better fighters? Quillin's win over Winky? 2 guys deserve to be above Golovkin, and they are Gaele and Sergio. Sergio is the champ so Golovkin is #2 contender
                    I forget his name but I thought Quillen's win over the guy he knocked down 500 times was better than what Golovkin has done to date.

                    Don't get me wrong, Golovkin is good. He has scary power.

                    I'm just highlighting it's funny that people use rankings as gospel when it suits them.

                    I see people critisizing the rankings because a fighter hasn't fought top ranked opposotion but who has Golovkin fought in the Top 10? Only Proska If I recall correctly.

                    Not his fault of course but a fact none the less.

                    But yeah, Golovkin is a beast. I'd love to see people be willing to fight him. Now he's getting a name I think he'll get better fights.

                    Like I said in another thread, Ishida isn't too good, but he sure is durable.

                    And Golovkin almost killed him.

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                    • Russian Crushin
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      I forget his name but I thought Quillen's win over the guy he knocked down 500 times was better than what Golovkin has done to date.

                      Don't get me wrong, Golovkin is good. He has scary power.

                      I'm just highlighting it's funny that people use rankings as gospel when it suits them.

                      I see people critisizing the rankings because a fighter hasn't fought top ranked opposotion but who has Golovkin fought in the Top 10? Only Proska If I recall correctly.

                      Not his fault of course but a fact none the less.

                      But yeah, Golovkin is a beast. I'd love to see people be willing to fight him. Now he's getting a name I think he'll get better fights.

                      Like I said in another thread, Ishida isn't too good, but he sure is durable.

                      And Golovkin almost killed him.
                      Better how? He was undefeated and fought nobody, and also ducked Golovkin.

                      Rankings are comparison between fighters, not a level you just reach.

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