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  • DoktorSleepless
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    #61
    Originally posted by Light_Speed
    You sound like you only watched his fight against Martinez.
    Rubio, Zbik? It's always the same with him.

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    • Light_Speed
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      #62
      Originally posted by Matty Ice
      Kirkland... Elite? What? This is what we do now to hype up Golovkin wins? Do you know the meaning of an elite fighter?

      Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez, Ward... THOSE are elite fighters. Yes Pacquiao even at this stage of his career is a better fighter than Kirkland. Kirkland on the other hand... nowhere near those guys. Stop it.


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      Ok there are only 4 elite fighters in the world.

      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
      Rubio, Zbik, Molina? It's always the same with him except the last twor rounds.
      Chavez was lazy in those fights? I don't think so. He definitely wasn't lazy in the Lee fight.

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      • MJ223
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        #63
        Originally posted by Matty Ice
        Kirkland... Elite? What? This is what we do now to hype up Golovkin wins? Do you know the meaning of an elite fighter?

        Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez, Ward... THOSE are elite fighters. Yes Pacquiao even at this stage of his career is a better fighter than Kirkland. Kirkland on the other hand... nowhere near those guys. Stop it.


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        Think he means an elite 54lber....

        And I think you knew that....

        Still a better W then anything Zbik has

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        • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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          #64
          Ishida a better opponent than Zbik...

          Kirkland an elite fighter...

          Signing out from this thread. This is beyond ridiculous. Too much fanboyism for my liking.


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          • Russian Crushin
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            #65
            Originally posted by Matty Ice
            You still trying?

            Zbik had a lackluster performance vs Sturm but I'm pretty sure 60% of the people here will tell you he beat Chavez. Whether you like it or not Zbik IS a better option than Ishida. He's not shot to pieces, he has more power and he has better boxing skills.

            Zbik a tune up fight for GGG? Based on what? Zbik would be his best opponent to date. Whether he's a tune up fight or not he's definitely a better option than Ishida. Not sure how you have the nerves to deny that.

            What about Rubio? Did they even reach out to him before his fight vs Upshaw was scheduled? We cant really say for sure if they exhausted all their options or if they went straight to Ishida. They can just say no one wants to fight us as a simple promotion tactic.


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            Lol cmon are you really trying to hype up Zbik. No he wouldnt be his best opponent to date, im not sure how he's better then Ishida either. He doesnt even have a good win, and has lost 2 str8. His last won was almost 3 years ago and Ishida beat Kirkland less then 2 years ago

            Rubio is being lined up for both Quillin and Sergio, he's the #1 contender for both belts and he wont fight Golovkin in Monaco because it would remove him from both rankings and he would probably lose

            Why is it that you're naming guys who ranked around 20 at MW?

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            • MJ223
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              #66
              Originally posted by Matty Ice
              Ishida a better opponent than Zbik...

              Kirkland an elite fighter...

              Signing out from this thread. This is beyond ridiculous. Too much fanboyism for my liking.


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              Ishida is the same as Zbik.... Yes they are

              Kirkland at his peak was one of the best at 54.... You know (or should know) this

              You should have stepped down awhile ago

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              • Light_Speed
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                #67
                Originally posted by Matty Ice
                Ishida a better opponent than Zbik...

                Kirkland an elite fighter...

                Signing out from this thread. This is beyond ridiculous. Too much fanboyism for my liking.
                You want GGG to fight somebody who's coming off a stoppage loss to washed up Sturm instead of somebody who's coming off a decision loss to prime Pirog.

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                • BafanaBafana
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  Lol cmon are you really trying to hype up Zbik. No he wouldnt be his best opponent to date, im not sure how he's better then Ishida either. He doesnt even have a good win, and has lost 2 str8. His last won was almost 3 years ago and Ishida beat Kirkland less then 2 years ago

                  Rubio is being lined up for both Quillin and Sergio, he's the #1 contender for both belts and he wont fight Golovkin in Monaco because it would remove him from both rankings and he would probably lose

                  Why is it that you're naming guys who ranked around 20 at MW?
                  What top 20 middleweights has Golovkin fought outside of Proksa? I'll tell you how many, none.

                  Kirkland was coming off a 2 year hiatus (prison stint) when Ishida KO'd him... you're not seriously comparing Zbik to Ishida are you?

                  The following guys have called Golovkin out within the last three months:
                  Rubio, Vera, Molina (>Rosado), Guerrero, Sergio Mora

                  The following fighters opponents would make for half-decent fights (much better than Fuchigami, Ishida, and Rosado or any GGG opponent outside of Proksa) and one or more should be willing and available for that title shot and possible payday:

                  Osumanu Adama, Max Bursak, Sebastian Zbik, Matt Korobov, Giovanni Lorenzo, Avtandil Khurtsidze, etc.

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                  • BafanaBafana
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                    #69
                    Take out the Proksa win and GGG probably has the thinnest resume among the top 10 in the division.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                      What top 20 middleweights has Golovkin fought outside of Proksa? I'll tell you how many, none.

                      Kirkland was coming off a 2 year hiatus (prison stint) when Ishida KO'd him... you're not seriously comparing Zbik to Ishida are you?

                      The following guys have called Golovkin out within the last three months:
                      Rubio, Vera, Molina (>Rosado), Guerrero, Sergio Mora

                      The following fighters opponents would make for half-decent fights (much better than Fuchigami, Ishida, and Rosado or any GGG opponent outside of Proksa) and one or more should be willing and available for that title shot and possible payday:

                      Osumanu Adama, Max Bursak, Sebastian Zbik, Matt Korobov, Giovanni Lorenzo, Avtandil Khurtsidze, etc.
                      You're having to sc**** the barrel, and even then you're doing a lot of guessing. Like Korobov, he hasn't yet foung a top 30 guy and they'll stick him in with GGG lol. Rubio is always in play for GGG's next HBO date, funny you never hear from him until someone else signs first:

                      The blizzard that hit the East Coast on Tuesday affected a few fight events, but Gennady Golovkin and Daniel Jacobs are just rolling with the punches.


                      Among the potential opponents who have been brought up are Marco Antonio Rubio (who lost a clear decision on HBO to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in a title fight in earlier this year), Fernando Guerrero (a one-time blue chip prospect and Al Haymon client) and Brian Vera (who knocked out Andy Lee a few years ago and then lost every round to him in a rematch on HBO 13 months ago). I’m told that Rubio turned down the fight and that HBO (thankfully) rejected Vera. HBO would accept Guerrero, but there might be an issue between Haymon and K2 over future contract options. So we’ll see who they come up with for Golovkin

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