why a lot of great amateurs never made it as pros ?

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

TINO no you are wrong my man..MANY people have an impression of amateurs that it is a baby game or something..... trust me the best amateurs are good, tough fighters who can dome about damage

[Gregster]

Amateurs were different in those days. They still didn't give credit for a knockdown.....but there was certainly none of the computerized crap. A lot of the amateurs fought more like pros, back then.

And there was no headgear.

[jabsRstiff]

And there was no headgear.

I remember the "crossing over" period....where it was optional.

It was worn, at some amatuer events. I have a clip of Duane Bobick against Larry Holmes (Olympic Trials) & they were wearing headgear. Maybe that was because it wasn't an international bout ?

[Gregster]

I've got that fight (Holmes-Bobick), with Muhammad Ali commentating. I might upload it for you people later, actually. I might upload with it clips of George Foreman against the 'Toronto 5', with Muhammad Ali commentating on that too.

[jabsRstiff]

The thing a bout the amateurs that makes it so tough....
It's not so easy to scout out yuor foe...as, especially early on, you may not even know who you were fighting.
Also....no picking & choosing your opponents, you have to beat the best in order to win anything. Once you've reached that level, you keep fighting the best.

Take Miguel Cotto, just as an example.....His first few professional foes were complete bums when compared to the excellent fighters he had to face at th end of his amateur career.

[tino]

TINO no you are wrong my man..MANY people have an impression of amateurs that it is a baby game or something..... trust me the best amateurs are good, tough fighters who can dome about damage

ICE , every morning i see a scar next to my eye and a broken nose that remind me that amateur boxing is no baby game .

i was a feared KO artist in the amateurs but when i sparred seasoned pros they most of the times would let me fire my bullets and then use their superior stamina to outwork me . thing i noticed too is the use of body punching . risky in the amateur cause it may not be seen by the judges , but a great weapon to take the wind out of a fighter in the pros

[Gregster]

Take Miguel Cotto, just as an example.....His first few professional foes were complete bums when compared to the excellent fighters he had to face at th end of his amateur career.

And Amir Khan, going from Mario Kindelan to David Bailey

[illKOu666]

yes , why ?

you see great amateur talents who just cant reach the world level as pros .

i know the fights are longer and no headgear and stuff , but even the amateur KO artist seem to lost their power in the pros .




i think the slower pace of the pro and the fights and the need to do damage to win the rounds is to blame .


any ideas ?

Mario Kindelan was good rite?

[Gregster]

Mario Kindelan was good rite?

Best lb4lb in the world of recent times.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

ALSO.. it is a common theme that just because you are a great amateur doesnt mean u will be a great pro.... but... I mean, if you are a great amateru there is a very good chance.... Look at all the champs from the last 20 years... most of them had very good amateur careers... when u are dealing with so many guys it is bound to happen that some will not make it... but there is a HUGE list of guys that were great amateurs that went pro and made it... JONES, FORREST, MOSLEY, TZYU etc