why a lot of great amateurs never made it as pros ?

[tino]

yes , why ?

you see great amateur talents who just cant reach the world level as pros .

i know the fights are longer and no headgear and stuff , but even the amateur KO artist seem to lost their power in the pros .




i think the slower pace of the pro and the fights and the need to do damage to win the rounds is to blame .


any ideas ?

[jabsRstiff]

yes , why ?

you see great amateur talents who just cant reach the world level as pros .

i know the fights are longer and no headgear and stuff , but even the amateur KO artist seem to lost their power in the pros .




i think the slower pace of the pro and the fights and the need to do damage to win the rounds is to blame .


any ideas ?

Some get burnt out in the amateurs. Some peak, physically too early..& they may have been stronger than their amateur rivals, but aren't as strong as the men they face in the pros.

[Gregster]

Yeah I think a lot of amateurs get burned out.

Kostya Tszyu had way over 200 amateur fights in five years but has only had about 30 pro fights in the last 10 years, for example. And Kostya, you watch his amateur fights and the guy is much quicker than he has been since 1998 with a lot of great left hand work going on and no sign of a power right hand to rely on. I think he could of been almost unbeatable if he started boxing a year later and turned pro a couple of years earlier.

[Dynamite76]

Probably what happened with Bernard Taylor and Jimmy Clark. In the case of Howard Davis Jr, couldn't really adapt to the pro way of things.

[jabsRstiff]

Probably what happened with Bernard Taylor and Jimmy Clark. In the case of Howard Davis Jr, couldn't really adapt to the pro way of things.

Clint Jackson, too.

[tino]

Probably what happened with Bernard Taylor and Jimmy Clark. In the case of Howard Davis Jr, couldn't really adapt to the pro way of things.

howard dvis jr lacked strenght and size IMO

[Gregster]

Clint Jackson, too.

He beat Mike McCallum at the World Championships!

[tino]

He beat Mike McCallum at the World Championships!

anybody can beat anybody in the amateurs if youre smart enough to score and run . plus the judging is suspect to say the least at the world level

[Dynamite76]

He beat Mike McCallum at the World Championships!

He was the man for a good three year period from 74 to 76.Also put Michael Dokes in his place at the Pan-Ams.Roger Leonard ended his string of AAU titles.

[jabsRstiff]

anybody can beat anybody in the amateurs if youre smart enough to score and run . plus the judging is suspect to say the least at the world level

Amateurs were different in those days. They still didn't give credit for a knockdown.....but there was certainly none of the computerized crap. A lot of the amateurs fought more like pros, back then.