Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: After My Mandatory, Maybe I'll Fight Haye

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  • Weltschmerz
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    #71
    edgarg, good to see someone put that guy in his place.

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    • LacedUp
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      #72
      Originally posted by edgarg
      You've already made about 6 pointed references to V. Klitschko being a "contender".That's only in your mind, because you detest him, and use every opportunity to denigrate him. We all know this, but that's the benefit of hiding behind your keyboard. Still you have to face the facts.

      The fact is that he's the WBC Champion, the most prestigious of the various organisations' belts. He fought for it, and has defended it multiple times. You know all this of course but to admit and accept it would be too sour for you. It seems that issuing so much bloviation on this particular subject has not caused you to run out of hot air. You are lucky you finally snared someone to respond to you. He'll get tired of replying to you as we all do. Enjoy it.

      One last little thing. Haye is merely doing what he should be, that is trying to earn as much money as he can for the least effort, and he enjoys needling people without a comeback. He's found his snarky method has worked in the past, so he keeps doing it. Klitschko gave him several chances and he ducked out. It could be thought that because of the shameful exhibition Haye put on against W. K. which swindled hundreds of thousands of fans, that it's a good enough reason to ignore him. I'm just speculating of course, nobody knows anything about this subject really...except you.
      I thought he made some relevant points. A shot at Vitali is not a shot at "the title". It's a shot at a belt. If Haye beat Vitali, he wouldn't be known as the heavyweight champion of the world, but the WBC title holder. Wlad is the man at HW. The fact that his brother is a belt holder has nothing to do with how badly Haye performed vs Wladimir. Vitali and Wlad are not the same person, do not share the same skills, athleticism, speed, power or accuracy.

      Vitali is the champion for WBC. He should defend it against all comers, because as you say, it's the most prestigious belt out there. But he is not. Latest opponents include Charr, Chisora, Adamek and Solis in the last 3 years. If I remember correctly, only 1 of these were mandatory. So what's this new obsessesion with being honorable to the mandatory?

      Now, I'm not suggesting he's scared of Haye at all. I don't think anyone would have a reason to think as tough a guy as Vitali would fear anyone. But it is still mesmerizing to think about why he would choose to go around Haye, when that fight brings him more than any other. In all terms, even satisfaction. Last time they met, David shook his hand and they smile and had a short laugh and David politely said: "I would really like a shot at your title". Vitali smiled and agreed.

      This was after the Munich brawl.

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      • JAB5239
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        #73
        Originally posted by edgarg
        You've already made about 6 pointed references to V. Klitschko being a "contender".That's only in your mind, because you detest him, and use every opportunity to denigrate him. We all know this, but that's the benefit of hiding behind your keyboard. Still you have to face the facts.

        Really? Than why do I rank him in my top 12 all time h2h?


        The fact is that he's the WBC Champion, the most prestigious of the various organisations' belts. He fought for it, and has defended it multiple times. You know all this of course but to admit and accept it would be too sour for you. It seems that issuing so much bloviation on this particular subject has not caused you to run out of hot air. You are lucky you finally snared someone to respond to you. He'll get tired of replying to you as we all do. Enjoy it.
        You don't get tired, you just have no more answers. Should we get into the WBC's corruption and misgivings since you think they're so prestigeous? Should we get into the FACT that there can only be one world champion?
        One last little thing. Haye is merely doing what he should be, that is trying to earn as much money as he can for the least effort, and he enjoys needling people without a comeback. He's found his snarky method has worked in the past, so he keeps doing it. Klitschko gave him several chances and he ducked out. It could be thought that because of the shameful exhibition Haye put on against W. K. which swindled hundreds of thousands of fans, that it's a good enough reason to ignore him. I'm just speculating of course, nobody knows anything about this subject really...except you.

        And only a fan boy would believe it is only Haye at faul;t and believe the lies of a promotional firm who has been accused of trying to short change fighter for their own benefit for years by other fighters. Everyone else is lying but K2, right?

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        • Weltschmerz
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          #74
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          I thought he made some relevant points. A shot at Vitali is not a shot at "the title". It's a shot at a belt. If Haye beat Vitali, he wouldn't be known as the heavyweight champion of the world, but the WBC title holder. Wlad is the man at HW. The fact that his brother is a belt holder has nothing to do with how badly Haye performed vs Wladimir. Vitali and Wlad are not the same person, do not share the same skills, athleticism, speed, power or accuracy.

          Vitali is the champion for WBC. He should defend it against all comers, because as you say, it's the most prestigious belt out there. But he is not. Latest opponents include Charr, Chisora, Adamek and Solis in the last 3 years. If I remember correctly, only 1 of these were mandatory. So what's this new obsessesion with being honorable to the mandatory?

          Now, I'm not suggesting he's scared of Haye at all. I don't think anyone would have a reason to think as tough a guy as Vitali would fear anyone. But it is still mesmerizing to think about why he would choose to go around Haye, when that fight brings him more than any other. In all terms, even satisfaction. Last time they met, David shook his hand and they smile and had a short laugh and David politely said: "I would really like a shot at your title". Vitali smiled and agreed.

          This was after the Munich brawl.
          Blah blah blah... Haye could have fought Vitali last September. Haye avoided Vitali. Haye knows his only way back is now to actually fight contenders, he's getting desperate.

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          • JAB5239
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            #75
            Originally posted by Weltschmerz
            edgarg, good to see someone put that guy in his place.
            Put me in my place? Im just getting started!!

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #76
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Latest opponents include Charr, Chisora, Adamek and Solis in the last 3 years.
              And before that it was Shannon Briggs and Albert Sosnowski.

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              • Weltschmerz
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                #77
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Put me in my place? Im just getting started!!
                You got owned

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                • thuggery
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                  #78
                  I wonder if Haye will take it after declining so many times already.

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #79
                    Vitali is not the champion, he's a Belt Holder, he has one of the trinkets

                    Wlad is the champion

                    learn the difference

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                    • jisi
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                      #80
                      He should fight David Haye or retire.

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