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  • JAB5239
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    #61
    Originally posted by Simurgh
    There are bodies that will decide whom and when Vitali will fight. I would prefer Povetkin, Pulev and even Tyson against Vitali rather than Haye. why would Haye have an exclusive right to fight him when he already had his shot at the title.

    You are new around here, but I always said that, if Vitali decides to fight Haye, I am all up to it, same if he decides not to. I just can't stand ducking and scare BS!
    Vits is not the champ, Wlad is. So Haye wouldn't be getting "another" shot. And Haye is more proven than Fury and more dangerous than Povetkin. This makes him a solid choice not to even mention the money he brings.

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      #62
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      Vits is not the champ, Wlad is. So Haye wouldn't be getting "another" shot. And Haye is more proven than Fury and more dangerous than Povetkin. This makes him a solid choice not to even mention the money he brings.
      I also think Haye is better than Povetkin, but he did a little to prove that - so Povetkin is just as worthy (probably more) to fight Vitali.

      Why would you, as a boxing fan, care how much money Vitali earns...

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        #63
        Originally posted by Simurgh
        So that's why there are mandatory positions
        Ok, so was Charr a mandatory?

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          #64
          Originally posted by Simurgh
          I also think Haye is better than Povetkin, but he did a little to prove that - so Povetkin is just as worthy (probably more) to fight Vitali.

          Why would you, as a boxing fan, care how much money Vitali earns...
          Why would Vitaly, as a boxer, say "its not about money, its personal."? We all know that wasn't true. And Haye is a contender and does bring the most money to the table. Its a relevant point.

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            #65
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            Ok, so was Charr a mandatory?
            He wasn't. That's the point. You get to choose your own opponents in non-mandatory fights. Fans can then discuss is it worthy opponent or not..

            It's up to Vitali's if he wants to give Haye a chance. He is not in that position without the reason. He earned the position to choose his non-mandatory opponents. If he chooses to give him a chance great for Haye, if not, Haye needs to get over it. I am fine either way. I am not advocating here that Haye is not good enough to be given a chance. He is, so is Povetkin, Pulev, Tyson...

            I am just pointing out how ridiculous is to claim Vitali is scared of him. It's not like, people who don't respect or give Vitali credit, will all of a sudden start doing so. I know most of those who are requesting this fight are hoping to see Vitali beaten (yes there is a chance as noone knows how past Vitali is).

            And Vitali should not care about those anyway.. Who supported him his whole career will continue to support, regardless of Haye's fight.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Simurgh
              He wasn't. That's the point. You get to choose your own opponents in non-mandatory fights. Fans can then discuss is it worthy opponent or not..

              It's up to Vitali's if he wants to give Haye a chance. He is not in that position without the reason. He earned the position to choose his non-mandatory opponents. If he chooses to give him a chance great for Haye, if not, Haye needs to get over it. I am fine either way. I am not advocating here that Haye is not good enough to be given a chance. He is, so is Povetkin, Pulev, Tyson...

              I am just pointing out how ridiculous is to claim Vitali is scared of him. It's not like, people who don't respect or give Vitali credit, will all of a sudden start doing so. I know most of those who are requesting this fight are hoping to see Vitali beaten (yes there is a chance as noone knows how past Vitali is).

              And Vitali should not care about those anyway.. Who supported him his whole career will continue to support, regardless of Haye's fight.
              I'm not saying he's scared, just pointing out how ridiculous it is to choose an opponent like Charr over one like Haye. It doesn't help legacy wise or monetarily. Contenders should be obligated to fight other contenders, that is all I'm saying.

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                #67
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                I'm not saying he's scared, just pointing out how ridiculous it is to choose an opponent like Charr over one like Haye. It doesn't help legacy wise or monetarily. Contenders should be obligated to fight other contenders, that is all I'm saying.
                Well they are (in their mandatory fights). I think Vitali is looking for the farewell fight. I think he chose Charr after Chisorra to see if his body can still cope. Many forgot Vitali was injured during Chisorra fight.

                There is no point going into fight with Haye right after your body wasn't responding well (aiming to KO him). How sad would it be to gave up the title to Haye due to injury. Or even beating Haye on UD but looking awful doing so.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Simurgh
                  Well they are (in their mandatory fights). I think Vitali is looking for the farewell fight. I think he chose Charr after Chisorra to see if his body can still cope. Many forgot Vitali was injured during Chisorra fight.

                  There is no point going into fight with Haye right after your body wasn't responding well (aiming to KO him). How sad would it be to gave up the title to Haye due to injury. Or even beating Haye on UD but looking awful doing so.
                  Sorry, but this just sounds like excuses to me. If you're not physically right at that age than just retire instead of leading boxing fans on with fights that do nothing for legacy, financially or the sport.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Sorry, but this just sounds like excuses to me. If you're not physically right at that age than just retire instead of leading boxing fans on with fights that do nothing for legacy, financially or the sport.
                    As if it's anybody's but Vitali's decision when he'll retire.

                    Vitali can go on for as long as he wants, with or without the gayemaker.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      I'm not saying he's scared, just pointing out how ridiculous it is to choose an opponent like Charr over one like Haye. It doesn't help legacy wise or monetarily. Contenders should be obligated to fight other contenders, that is all I'm saying.
                      You've already made about 6 pointed references to V. Klitschko being a "contender".That's only in your mind, because you detest him, and use every opportunity to denigrate him. We all know this, but that's the benefit of hiding behind your keyboard. Still you have to face the facts.

                      The fact is that he's the WBC Champion, the most prestigious of the various organisations' belts. He fought for it, and has defended it multiple times. You know all this of course but to admit and accept it would be too sour for you. It seems that issuing so much bloviation on this particular subject has not caused you to run out of hot air. You are lucky you finally snared someone to respond to you. He'll get tired of replying to you as we all do. Enjoy it.

                      One last little thing. Haye is merely doing what he should be, that is trying to earn as much money as he can for the least effort, and he enjoys needling people without a comeback. He's found his snarky method has worked in the past, so he keeps doing it. Klitschko gave him several chances and he ducked out. It could be thought that because of the shameful exhibition Haye put on against W. K. which swindled hundreds of thousands of fans, that it's a good enough reason to ignore him. I'm just speculating of course, nobody knows anything about this subject really...except you.

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