Proof that Bradley was not knocked down in the 1st:

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  • DreamFighter
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    #31
    his chicken dance was concussion based. It was a KD. He didn't get concussed falling to the canvas.

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    • Mister Wolf
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      #32
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza


      Tunney red k'd me for this post and said "I have a hard on for Tim Bradley".

      In one thread I'm a Bradley hater in the next I love him.

      Tunney, please, see a doctor.
      Haha you getting attacked from all sides Dan.

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      • komodo
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        #33
        That could have easily been given as a KD.....it wasn't given....life goes on.

        /thread.

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        • paulf
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          #34
          Bradley was falling into Provodnikov and trying to grab hold to hold himself up, it's pretty common, and Provodnikov just shoved him off so he would go where he was originally headed; down.

          It happens all the time, and it's called a Knockdown. Haven't you seen Lewis-Tyson? Same thing.

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          • Russian Crushin
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            #35
            Clear knockdown

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            • Nekeneg
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              #36
              He fell forward towards Prov that's why it looked like he got pushed down but that's a legit knowdown, he wsa wobbly for the rest of the round.

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                #37
                Originally posted by paulf
                Bradley was falling into Provodnikov and trying to grab hold to hold himself up, it's pretty common, and Provodnikov just shoved him off so he would go where he was originally headed; down.

                It happens all the time, and it's called a Knockdown. Haven't you seen Lewis-Tyson? Same thing.

                it's not the same thing at all.

                Tyson completely sagged downward as soon as Lennox landed. his upper body slumped forward, it didn't roll. he was only going one way - down.

                after Provodnikov's hook lands, Bradley's body dips in a circular, rolling motion consistent with the defensive technique he always uses at that range. he was on his way up when he was leaned on. Tyson was only going down.

                the simpleness of some of you guys is astounding. mind-boggling. revelatory. there are cats here who really do only see what they want to see.


                Originally posted by Freedom.
                the video in post #1 shows relevant detail that the real-time gif does not.




                Originally posted by King-
                Call me crazy or blind, (I have not even saw the fight yet) but as much as you're saying you don't see a KD, i see even less of a push. Where exactly did Bradly get pushed?
                i've led a horse to water many times, but i've never forced the drink down his neck.


                Originally posted by Rasheed Mexico
                Does it really matter if it was a knockdown or not? Even if you believe it wasn't it still should have been a 10-8 round due to the numerous times Bradley was hurt in that round.
                did you watch the fight or just read some exaggerated forum posts? Bradley was not hurt 'numerous times' in the 1st. he was on his way to comfortably winning the round until he got hurt by that right hand in the last 30 seconds. if one does not score a knockdown (and they shouldn't), there is no way they can score the 1st a 10-8 round.


                Originally posted by ИATAS
                Yeah he looks totally fine. I mean he tries to stand up and falls on his back because his legs are completely gone. Maybe he did that just for laughs?
                Originally posted by House of Stone
                He also got up AND fell back over again cause his legs were gone ... but yeah sure it was a slip/push he wasn't really hurt whatever ...
                Originally posted by 1PunchKOPOW!
                Then please answer my why Bradley couldn't get up and was stumbling.[/SIZE]
                Originally posted by ИATAS
                clear as day. A well conditioned athlete like bradley wouldn't try to get up, fall on his back, get up again and stumble backwards to the ropes for support unless he went down and was badly on ***** street.
                man, you guys are some simple-minded fucks.

                have you ever been hurt at all? you can conceivably keep your feet and continue an activity even while on weak legs. if someone pushes you down when you are in that state, you will stumble when you go to stand, especially if you get up as quickly as Tim did.

                that his legs were weak from having eaten a couple big punches does not necessarily support that he was knocked down.

                your arguments are childish and simplistic. i'm not saying he wasn't badly hurt and woozy, you morons.

                i know some of you guys have hard-ons for these scary-faced, hard-hitting, fashionably obscure Eastern Bloc sluggers, but goodness me.


                Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                Clear knockdown
                another Eastern Bloc flunkie with no clue.

                and, looking at your av and sig, a clear ****.


                Originally posted by Nekeneg
                He fell forward towards Prov that's why it looked like he got pushed down but that's a legit knowdown, he wsa wobbly for the rest of the round.
                he didn't fall, he was on his way up until his movement was disrupted by the frame of Provodnikov.

                yes, he was wobbly, but that doesn't mean he was knocked down. nobody is saying he wasn't badly hurt.


                Originally posted by DreamFighter
                his chicken dance was concussion based. It was a KD. He didn't get concussed falling to the canvas.
                lawd, another feeb. nobody's saying he wasn't badly hurt, didn't do the chicken-dance or wasn't concussed, whatever rhetorical way you want to put it.

                here's what's being said - it's not a knockdown, because after Bradley clearly dipped low, bending and rolling at the waist, to avoid subsequent blows, he was on his way up before his movement was interrupted by Provodnikov's body, at which point Provodnikov leaned on him and stopped him from bringing his upper-body into an upright position.

                it's not hard to understand, you mugs. just because you want the hip underdog to get a 10-8 round, doesn't mean he actually deserved one in reality.


                Originally posted by speed2kill
                The video actually shows that it was a KD. He wasn't pushed down, he lost his legs after bending forward to avoid more shots.
                he was, indeed, bending to avoid more shots. i'm glad we can agree on that. what you've failed to observe is that he only lost his legs after Provodnikov leaned down on him when they made contact as Bradley was in the process of moving his upper-body back to an upright position.


                Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                even if it isn't in your (obviously biased) eyes a KD..
                yeah, i'm 'bias', that must be it.


                Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                the fact that bradley was so badly hurt, flailing around and falling all over the place would make it a 10-8 round...
                it's a 10-8 round based on 30 seconds of action in a round he otherwise controlled? great logic, bro. great logic.


                Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                also at 0:42 ruslan lands a short left hook ..not sure how cleanly it landed though but bradley looks like he felt it and that's when he buckles over and goes down. so it might have the been combination of that hard right hand and then followed up by that short left hook that knocked bradley down.
                except Bradley didn't get 'knocked down'. he started dipping to avoid follow-ups after the right hand and did the same after the hook landed. then his movement was interrupted on the way up.

                guess you never watched Tim Bradley before, since you don't seem to be aware that dipping low to avoid punches is a staple of his defense when at close range?


                Originally posted by House of Stone
                if he hadn't shipped that punch he wouldn't have gone down.
                which punch, the right or the left? better clarify.

                actually, wait, it's irrelevant, 'cause if Bradley hadn't met with Provodnikov's body on his way up and been leaned on, he wouldn't have gone down.


                Originally posted by House of Stone
                Listen dude here's a little advice ... if you REALLY want people to like bradley, quit the biased talk and just stick with the facts. And the facts are Bradley put on a great show, he got badly hurt early on, but dug deep to pull it back, showing great heart and balls. THEY are the facts. You don't need to talk BS about how that was a slip/push etc. All that does is encourage the haters and give them more ammunition to hate, but whatever, I have no doubt you will barely read this and/or will simply ignore it and keep talking crap and making guys here like Bradley less.

                Tim doesn't need d*ck riders like you.
                this isn't a game of 'trying to make people like Bradley', it's a game of 'calling out and debunking bull****'.

                i don't need to listen to some BS about Tim was 'clearly knocked down and it must be true coz he was on shaky legs lololol'.

                you just wasted that entire bizarre ramble.


                Originally posted by JOM'S
                i did not see the fight and the video posted was short, my question if it was ruled a knockdown, would bradley beat the 10 count?
                the video posted contained all the relevant footage as to the alleged knockdown. and yes, Bradley would have beaten the count.


                Originally posted by chav
                Bradley was in deep trouble, that's all I know. We can split hairs on if it could have been called a KD or not. It wasn't, but there is no denying he was stunned and wobbled badly and another 30 seconds could have seen him stopped brutally.
                Saved by the bell is exactly what happened to Timmeh a few times
                nobody's saying he wasn't. the point is that a knockdown makes a 10-9 round a 10-8 round and changes the outcome of the fight.

                these guys want to give Ruslan a 10-8 round. but guess what? it wasn't a knockdown.


                Originally posted by komodo
                That could have easily been given as a KD.....it wasn't given....life goes on.

                /thread.
                it wouldn't be the first time that a push has been mistakenly called as a 'knockdown'. so i agree, it could easily have been mistakenly called as a knockdown.

                thankfully, the official got the call right.

                /thread
                Last edited by PEBBLES!; 03-17-2013, 03:36 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ИATAS
                  Yeah he looks totally fine. I mean he tries to stand up and falls on his back because his legs are completely gone. Maybe he did that just for laughs?
                  Well he was laughing!

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                    #39
                    I don't see the big deal whether he was knocked down or not, Bradley hit Ruslan with everything but the kitchen sink and won the fight...Ruslan buckled him a bunch of times and MAYBE could have stopped him in the end but its all in the air...

                    You can hurt your opponent 10 times in a fight but if you don't put em away its irrelevant...Ruslan got outworked in the majority of those middle rounds, look at his face...

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                    • FeFist
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ИATAS
                      clear as day. A well conditioned athlete like bradley wouldn't try to get up, fall on his back, get up again and stumble backwards to the ropes for support unless he went down and was badly on ***** street.
                      No it isn't clear as clear as day. If I punch someone in the face and they're out of their feet, then I push them over they're going to have a hard time standing up. The fact that they have a difficult time standing up would knock act as proof that my punch caused the knockdown.

                      I don't really have a problem with the referees decision.

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