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  • giacomino
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    #61
    Originally posted by Cuauhtli.
    Marquez is not a 4 a division champion, he won a interim belt against a mediocre European fighter and the got elevated to "full champion". Even if it was for the full title, it wasn't legit.
    Arce's four belts are by far bigger bull****. Two of them, 115 and 118, were vacant WBO title fights against the same, mediocre fighter, Angky Angkotta, who had done nothing to deserve a title shot in the first place. He was essentially handed title belts. I loved watching Arce fight, but calling him a "four-division champion" is pretty meaningless when high-profile fighters get a tin belt every time they enter the ring

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    • LeG00N
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      #62
      Originally posted by Cuauhtli.
      Marquez is not a 4 a division champion, he won a interim belt against a mediocre European fighter and the got elevated to "full champion". Even if it was for the full title, it wasn't legit.
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      Originally posted by edgarg
      I agree with you If all the hot air on here were collected the balloon could cross the tlantic without a touchdown in the drink.

      Bradley didn't beat Pacquiao, but the judges said he did. The WBO accpeted this and awarded him the title belt. He's a champion. If he loses his next fight the winner will be recgnised as the champion.

      Championship titles are vested in the sanctioning bodies. Fans don't appoint champions. If it makes them fell better thay can keep the conviction in their minds that Marquez isn't the 140 lb champ and whoever beats him isn't a champion either. And so on and on.....

      Let them enjoy it.
      pretty much...that's how it works

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      • Hougigo
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        #63
        Originally posted by Cuauhtli.
        Marquez is not a 4 a division champion, he won a interim belt against a mediocre European fighter and the got elevated to "full champion". Even if it was for the full title, it wasn't legit.
        Despite Maniac being a idiot biased jackass, I think he's right in this being opinion.... because down the road, nobody will really get into it that much. Just like everyone recognizes Manny as a 8 division champ, but 140 was for a Ring and IBO belt and 154 was a catchweight diamond belt.
        I mean, you guys are criticizing Marquez for winning against the interim belt against some sub-par eastern European.... but Morales won a vacant belt against Cano, who at the time never fought outside of Mexico, on short notice.
        Yea i know the difference between interim and full title is what separates these two title wise, but both fought poo poo competition for the title

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        • whoseyourdaddy
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          #64
          Originally posted by Johnny_Roa
          Way more money than you'll make in your entire sorry life.
          Exsactly 40% of his earnings is way too much, this friggin goverment is taking 33% of my income (am a middle class guy) the diference is that in 8 years of paying taxes I recive nothing in return.

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #65
            since when was marquez a 4 division champ??? EDIT: Whups nevermind. i see this discussion already took place. I agree, there should be no elevation into champion status. that literally makes no sense.
            Last edited by Kagami Taiga; 03-16-2013, 09:34 PM.

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            • whoseyourdaddy
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              #66
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Cleared this up in my last post. That wasn't my logic.

              Marquez is not a 4 division Champion. You have to win a title to be a champion and Marquez has not.
              boxrec and other sites say Marquez is a champ in 4 different weight classes so your opinion is irrelevant and just that a siple opinion.

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              • Kagami Taiga
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                #67
                what i dont understand is how ppl are ok with a fighter being elevated to champion status. wtf???? boxing fans are a big part of the reason why this sport is seen as a joke.

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                  #68
                  Juan Manuel Marquez vs Timothy Bradley in Estadio Azteca!

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                  • handsome1-1
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                    #69
                    The piss drinking, PED juiced up Marquez wants to avoid the Olympic Drug testing. Marquez is one snake who is trying to cheat his way to another title.

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                    • drool
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by retnuocllup
                      also fighting outside of the US, JMM might have less stringent PEDs testing.... if a roided JMM can destroy Bradley, his chances against Floyd look a lot better
                      No... and No.

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