Comments Thread For: Marquez Eyes Fifth World Crown, Fighting Outside The U.S.

[LeG00N]

I know they can say "You're elevated to a champion"

But that doesn't make you a Champion. You can't just be magically made a Champion for no reason at all and be considered a legit Champion.

You have to win a Championship. Let's not put logic and common sense aside.

If Marquez goes the route I expect him to he'll be a 4 and then 5 weight Champion soon enough.

logic and common snese say there should only be 1 champion...but that's not the official way that things work and in the official way that things work Marquez is a 4 division champion.

It's just how it works. I don't agree with it and neither do you but that's just the way it is. If he beats Bradley he'll be a 5th division champ

[Slip Stream]

Taxes on the purse size aside, it sounds like Marquez has moved beyond Pacquiao in his thinking. He's thinking about fighting at a different weight class for another title, thus achieving his dream. He already beat Manny handily, why revisit an exclamation point, when the point was clearly made. Arum wants a rematch of course because he'll make a lot of money but what would it settle really? Didn't the last fight settle it?

Marquez is probably another Hopkins in terms of his longevity, and if so he needs to think about family first and what will earn him the most dollars.

[IronDanHamza]

logic and common snese say there should only be 1 champion...but that's not the official way that things work and in the official way that things work Marquez is a 4 division champion.

It's just how it works. I don't agree with it and neither do you but that's just the way it is. If he beats Bradley he'll be a 5th division champ

Not the same but ok Agree to disagree, I suppose.

Marquez should be the first 4 weight world Champion for Mexico though we can agree on that.

[$coinblatt$]

Marquez is not a 4 a division champion, he won a interim belt against a mediocre European fighter and the got elevated to "full champion". Even if it was for the full title, it wasn't legit.

[IronDanHamza]

Marquez is not a 4 a division champion, he won a interim belt against a mediocre European fighter and the got elevated to "full champion". Even if it was for the full title, it wasn't legit.

Exactly.

You can't win an interim title, do nothing, and be "elevated" into a champion for no reason.

It's a notion that literally doesn't make any sense.

[piojo del norte]

Someone should send an email to the WBO, they made a mistake..

http://www.wboboxing.com/our-champions/

[edgarg]

Mitt Romney paid his dues. He too once paid a Income Tax, which is usually higher than a Capital Gains Tax (which was 15%..now it's higher). The average small business owner pays a income tax, and if he invests his earned money and profits...he will also pay the mitt romney 15% tax. Get it through your thick skull.

If you conclusion is to raise Mitt Romney's tax so it's on par with Marquez's..then you're wrong. It's the opposite. Lower marquez's tax down to Mitt Romney's of 15...problem solved.

Just to straighten out a few things about the taxes to add to what you pointed out. Romney actually paid a hell of a lot more than 15%. He invests his money, on which he's already paid FULL TAX, then the dividends were taxed again at a lesser rate.

He actually paid a little more than the top tax. From next year it's gone up to 39.6%.

And the Romney's also donated over $3 mill to charity, which is about 13-14% of their income BEFORE taxes.I'd say he's a pretty good fellow......

[KickAzz]

also fighting outside of the US, JMM might have less stringent PEDs testing.... if a roided JMM can destroy Bradley, his chances against Floyd look a lot better

[danktrees]

Exactly.

You can't win an interim title, do nothing, and be "elevated" into a champion for no reason.

It's a notion that literally doesn't make any sense.

yep but if pacman is an eight division champion without actually having fought at 154 or beat the current 154 champ for the belt then Marquez's belt has to count as well.

[edgarg]

You just said that even if you don't agree with their terms if THEY consider someone a champion, then they're a champion despite your disagreement. Yet when THEY consider Marquez a champion you don't because of some technicality. That's your own logic.

it doesn't matter how much you disagree with or how many technicalities you come up with. Marquez is recognized as a 4 division champion. Sure his 140 title may hold no weight with Garcia in the same weight classes but it doesn't matter. Technically he's a 4 division champ.

Just like Pacquiao's joke of a 154 title will be recognized historically and officially.

I agree with you If all the hot air on here were collected the balloon could cross the tlantic without a touchdown in the drink.

Bradley didn't beat Pacquiao, but the judges said he did. The WBO accpeted this and awarded him the title belt. He's a champion. If he loses his next fight the winner will be recgnised as the champion.

Championship titles are vested in the sanctioning bodies. Fans don't appoint champions. If it makes them fell better thay can keep the conviction in their minds that Marquez isn't the 140 lb champ and whoever beats him isn't a champion either. And so on and on.....

Let them enjoy it.