Did these fighters damage their legacy?

[S H A R K B O Y]

It's an amazing list when you look up fighters who hung around too long and many ended up broke and in poor health. I must say that these fighters didn't handle their careers in an intelligent manner


Ali-punch drunk
Ray Robinson-broke, punch drunk
Pernell Whitaker-punch drunk
James toney-punch drunk
Jimmy Young-punch drunk
John Tate-punch drunk
Shane Mosley-punch drunk, steroids, damaged legacy
Roy Jones jr-damaged legacy?
Joe Louis-broke, punch drunk
Thomas Hearns-broke, punch drunk
Rid**** Bowe-broke, punch drunk
Mike Tyson- broke
Sonny Liston-damaged legacy
Meldrick Taylor-broke, punch drunk, damaged legacy
Joe Frazier-broke,punch drunk
Michael Dokes-broke, punch drunk
Floyd Patterson-punch drunk
Jack Johnson-broke, hung on too long

There are many more but I think I made my point that boxing can be tragic and these fighters are an example. Not smart enough to walk away when they should have and many could not handle their finances correctly. Boxing needs a solid pension plan and hopefully we'll see that in the future.

However, some fighters were intelligent enough to walk away with their money and health. They deserve accolades.

Carlos Monzon
Ricardo Lopez
Rocky Marciano
Joe Calzaghe
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney


The question remains: When a fighter hangs on too long, does it damage their legacy?

Calslappy the coke heaux should not be on that list.

[thuggery]

Calslappy the coke heaux should not be on that list.

He's economically stable, retired at the right time, and he seems to be in good health.

[White_Knight]

Good thread.

[MRBOOMER]

It's an amazing list when you look up fighters who hung around too long and many ended up broke and in poor health. I must say that these fighters didn't handle their careers in an intelligent manner


Ali-punch drunk
Ray Robinson-broke, punch drunk
Pernell Whitaker-punch drunk
James toney-punch drunk
Jimmy Young-punch drunk
John Tate-punch drunk
Shane Mosley-punch drunk, steroids, damaged legacy
Roy Jones jr-damaged legacy?
Joe Louis-broke, punch drunk
Thomas Hearns-broke, punch drunk
Rid**** Bowe-broke, punch drunk
Mike Tyson- not even close to broke you should see where he lives in Vegas man
Sonny Liston-damaged legacy
Meldrick Taylor-broke, punch drunk, damaged legacy
Joe Frazier-broke,punch drunk
Michael Dokes-broke, punch drunk
Floyd Patterson-punch drunk
Jack Johnson-broke, hung on too long

There are many more but I think I made my point that boxing can be tragic and these fighters are an example. Not smart enough to walk away when they should have and many could not handle their finances correctly. Boxing needs a solid pension plan and hopefully we'll see that in the future.

However, some fighters were intelligent enough to walk away with their money and health. They deserve accolades.

Carlos Monzon- murdered his wife wasn't it yeah he wasn't holding on to ****
Ricardo Lopez
Rocky Marciano-
Joe Calzaghe
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney


The question remains: When a fighter hangs on too long, does it damage their legacy?

Nope it doesn't

[BigAlexSand]

For the most part, its what's going on outside the ring. Tommy Morrison couldn't keep his d!ck in his pants. De La Hoya who couldn't could keep his nose clean or dressing. Jones Jr, is in love with money and cant get enough. Soon Pacquiao who is showing lack of drive/love to be in the ring (possibly because of infidelity through his past). Pavlik who allowed alcohol get the better of him.

Yet, a 48 year old is champion, and a man who hadn't started boxing till 23 yet focused is middle weight champ at 38.

[ralph22]

No they sure didnt

[BennyST]

It's an amazing list when you look up fighters who hung around too long and many ended up broke and in poor health. I must say that these fighters didn't handle their careers in an intelligent manner


Ali-punch drunk
Ray Robinson-broke, punch drunk
Pernell Whitaker-punch drunk
James toney-punch drunk
Jimmy Young-punch drunk
John Tate-punch drunk
Shane Mosley-punch drunk, steroids, damaged legacy
Roy Jones jr-damaged legacy?
Joe Louis-broke, punch drunk
Thomas Hearns-broke, punch drunk
Rid**** Bowe-broke, punch drunk
Mike Tyson- broke
Sonny Liston-damaged legacy
Meldrick Taylor-broke, punch drunk, damaged legacy
Joe Frazier-broke,punch drunk
Michael Dokes-broke, punch drunk
Floyd Patterson-punch drunk
Jack Johnson-broke, hung on too long

There are many more but I think I made my point that boxing can be tragic and these fighters are an example. Not smart enough to walk away when they should have and many could not handle their finances correctly. Boxing needs a solid pension plan and hopefully we'll see that in the future.

However, some fighters were intelligent enough to walk away with their money and health. They deserve accolades.

Carlos Monzon
Ricardo Lopez
Rocky Marciano
Joe Calzaghe
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney


The question remains: When a fighter hangs on too long, does it damage their legacy?

Monzon might have walked away with his health intact, but he also beat his wives, murdered his girlfriend, and died young and horribly in a car crash on prison leave while still serving out his sentence.

[Tom Cruise]

You can add Lennox Lewis to the 'successful' list. Or does that away from the racial nature of the thread?

[illmaticfighter]

You can add Lennox Lewis to the 'successful' list. Or does that away from the racial nature of the thread?

also
George foreman
srl
marvin hagler
buddy mcgirt

[Prince_Pugilist]

also
George foreman
srl
marvin hagler
buddy mcgirt

No to SRL. The man lost to guys he would have schooled in his prime.

On to the actual topic at hand: I do believe certain great fighters have had their legacies damaged by fighting on for too long. For example, Roy Jones Jr, his 2 KO losses to Johnson and Tarver came towards the end of his prime but he wasn't completely shot. Both fights were at a very high level. The KOs showed that Jones had a below average chin and it was his natural speed and reflexes which had saved him in earlier fights. I hold those two bouts against Jones' overall legacy.