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Originally posted by junior gong View PostHe did beat him up and some other guy who no longer works for floyd. I know its hard for you to accept, but its common knowledge for those who have followed boxing for long enough. I know beyond boner and floyd you dont really know anything about the sport, but being a flojob I would have expected you to have known this(unless you just block out anything painful or negative about floydie).
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Originally posted by boxingfeind View PostShow me a source where it says James Prince goons beat Ellerbe up.And Ellerbe responded to Prince,Prince know who he`s talking about so Ellerbe don`t have to say his name.If Ellerbe was so afraid of him he wouldn`t have responded.
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Originally posted by Davis40 View PostRizwaan: What exactly happened between you and Floyd?
Jeff Mayweather: For me, it was a choice to leave. I always try to put my best foot forward and I’m all about family, and up until his like 10th fight, I never took a dime from Floyd Jr. I’m a modest person, I don’t need the fame. In my heart, I know what I have done. That's good enough for me. One day, when we were doing a radio show in Vegas, he shows up with James Prince. Myself or Roger didn’t know anything about this guy, but Floyd wanted him there. Floyd was the one whom put him on the fight scene, that’s how he got Winky Wright and Diego Corrales, Mark "Too Sharp” Johnson and also former IBF Jr Lightweight Champion, Steve "Two Pound" Forbes. I think he just took him to Houston and showed him the big houses, the nice cars and many other things as well. He also promised Floyd that he can establish his own rap label. Soon after, Floyd would act like he wanted to be a thug or something, he didn’t have any real life struggles or lived in the projects or did anything to give him any street credibility He grew up with a loving family in which we all did our part to help him reach his dreams. He never even worked a job growing up. He’s not 50 cent.
Hell, he’s not even 20 cent (laughing). At the end of the day, it was just wasted time and money with James Prince,
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostSo Floyd wanted to be a thug but then wised up and choose the better route in life? How is this negative on him?
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Originally posted by junior gong View PostWhat?? by beating up women in front of children, being a degenerate gambler and hanging round with a bunch of gun toting goons? Yeah, way to go!
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Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post1) Broner isn't really that popular yet so he's not the best example, and Chavez Jr is the son of a boxing legend, Eubank Jr. will get a similar lift here.
2) I don't know why Canelo generates the interest he does. Maybe it's because he has power and stands toe to toe or maybe it is because he looks the way he does.
3) I'm not sure Ward's is mis-managed, he hadn't really fought anybody good until 2009 so he's only been in the public consciousness for 3 years or so, he's about where you'd expect him to be.
4) At this point Ward needs some fights against opposition the US public knows well. Pavlik was a good choice in that respect as was Dawson, Hopkins would be another good choice.
Chavez Jr. is the son of a Mexican legend? So what? It all boils down to his promoters marketing him.
2) Canelo is successful because he has promoters who know how to market him. There are plenty of Mexican fighters out there yet Golden Boy's promotion has sold the kid as the next Mexican star. People buy into it.
3) He is mismanaged. There are two ways of looking at things, one is from the point of view that he won an Olympic gold medal. That right there should have been enough to kick start interest in his career. Look at Audley Harrison, look at Amir Khan ( A silver Medalist). Many people were interested in those fighters sake of the medal they won. They market them as representatives of the country and people become interested.
Then there is the second way of looking at things. Okay he didn't fight anyone good until 2009. Why? He became a professional in 2004. Moving passed the why. 4 years have passed since 2009, why is he not a name now? The Super Six tournament gave him a major push, all he had to do after that was put a beating on Bute but the fight fell into the hands of Carl Froch.
4) At this point in time he needs promoters who will tell the community that he is the best in the business and ram it down people's throat. Casual fans cannot spot the difference between a can and a solid contender. He needs to be more active and he needs people creating a buzz about him.
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Originally posted by boxingfeind View PostIt has nothing to do with race.Floyd and Ward were "friends".Also the day Ward was fighting for his first world title Floyd called him up to wish him good luck.Plus Ward trained at Mayweather boxing gym many times.
How would you feel if a guy you thought was your friend was rooting against you?
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Originally posted by FeFist View Post1) Broner is a good example to use. He is not the biggest thing in the sport but his name is more well known than Andre Ward's? Why is that? He is less accomplished and has faced meek competition. The answer is down to the way his promoters have marketed him. He's sold as the next Mayweather, the next superstar so people buy into it.
Chavez Jr. is the son of a Mexican legend? So what? It all boils down to his promoters marketing him.
2) Canelo is successful because he has promoters who know how to market him. There are plenty of Mexican fighters out there yet Golden Boy's promotion has sold the kid as the next Mexican star. People buy into it.
3) He is mismanaged. There are two ways of looking at things, one is from the point of view that he won an Olympic gold medal. That right there should have been enough to kick start interest in his career. Look at Audley Harrison, look at Amir Khan ( A silver Medalist). Many people were interested in those fighters sake of the medal they won. They market them as representatives of the country and people become interested.
Then there is the second way of looking at things. Okay he didn't fight anyone good until 2009. Why? He became a professional in 2004. Moving passed the why. 4 years have passed since 2009, why is he not a name now? The Super Six tournament gave him a major push, all he had to do after that was put a beating on Bute but the fight fell into the hands of Carl Froch.
4) At this point in time he needs promoters who will tell the community that he is the best in the business and ram it down people's throat. Casual fans cannot spot the difference between a can and a solid contender. He needs to be more active and he needs people creating a buzz about him.
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