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Originally posted by junior gong View PostThats just your opinion, and as far as legit goes, you seem to be fairly certain anyway as you are 'confident that he would beat Dawson just as one sided at LHW'....a fight you 'would love to see'.
I absolutely believe Ward would beat Dawson at 175, and I'd love to see a rematch to get a legit win over Dawson when he isn't drained.
Should I give him credit for fighting a drained Dawson for the same reason? Does that somehow make it a legit win?
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Originally posted by S. Saddler 1310 View Postyou guys were having a discussion about the legitimacy of Mayweather's and Ward's recent work. or at least, you made a statement about Ward lacking a quality win since 2011 and junior gong inevitably recriminated that Mayweather's entire run from 2009-2012 was worthless (in not so many words).
i wasn't saying that i found the cases of Ward-Dawson and Mayweather-Mosley to be similar, but rather that the guy you're talking to would be similarly dismissive with regards to any of Mayweather's recent wins.
does Ward deserve full credit for defeating Dawson? definitely not. but Dawson was a new stylistic challenge for him and Ward did what he had to on the night (and did it very well).
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostOf course.
I absolutely believe Ward would beat Dawson at 175, and I'd love to see a rematch to get a legit win over Dawson when he isn't drained.
Should I give him credit for fighting a drained Dawson for the same reason? Does that somehow make it a legit win?
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Originally posted by junior gong View PostMosley was old and fairly shot though, wasnt he?
Mayweather made the fight and beat the crap out of Mosley. credit is due.
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Originally posted by junior gong View PostNo Martinez run hasnt been amazing, which I have stated before. And they would say that after the fight wouldnt they. Yes it was a good win, not great, but good."After the run he's been on, he deserves an easy fight!"
Yeah, so what Dawson say's before the fight is gospel. After, not so much?
Use your eyes, Dawson was clearly drained. And it's not a surprise considering a guy who walks around at 190 Lbs who hasn't weighed lower than 170 odd lbs in 6 years struggles badly to make 168.
You have some strange, contrasting standards.
Everyone Mayweather fights - Terrible.
Wards win over Dawson - Good!
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Originally posted by junior gong View PostYou're confident it would be one sided, yet you want to see it? .....ok.
Am I not allowed to want to see fighters I'm a fan of be in one sided fights?
I think Donaire-Rigondeaux is going to be a one sided fight should I not be looking forward to that either?
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Originally posted by S. Saddler 1310 View Postnot if you looked at his last piece of work. the demand for a fight with Mayweather was there. Mayweather was actually accused of fearing the guy. many people said he would never sign to fight Mosley. folks in the media cast doubt on it.
Mayweather made the fight and beat the crap out of Mosley. credit is due.
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Originally posted by junior gong View PostCotto was a decent win, again, not great but decent. Mosley wasnt, but he showed he had some balls and a good chin after getting cracked. Marquez and Ortiz werent very good at all.
again, many observers believed Mosley was enjoying a renaissance under Richarson. he was coming off one of his best wins/performances. he was identified as one of the two men Mayweather should fight. credit is therefore due.
it was only after Floyd beat him up that Mosley was considered an undesirable opponent for Mayweather.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostYeah. Shouldn't I? I'm a fan of Ward, I'd love to see him do what he did to a drained Dawson to a healthy Dawson.
Am I not allowed to want to see fighters I'm a fan of be in one sided fights?
I think Donaire-Rigondeaux is going to be a one sided fight should I not be looking forward to that either?
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