whats wrong with fighting @ a catchweight?

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  • ИATAS
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    #71
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    First of all how do you manipulate a catchweight?

    second of all Henry Armstrong made Tony Canzoneri come down to 142 instead of the 147 for a welterweight championship bout.

    Sugar Ray Leonard made Donny Lalonde come down an entire division at 168 for the 175 championship

    Julio Cesar Chavez also forced Whitaker to come down to 145 instead of 147 for a welterweight title bout.

    Oscar De La Hoya forced Bernard Hopkins for the 160 Middleweight championship bout to be held at 157.

    Cotto comes down 1 pounds and pac is the CW king of history
    And just to prove a point Hopkins weighed in at 156 pounds against Oscar. Hopkins waa clearly drained and got knocked out...oh wait!

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    • junior gong
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      #72
      Absolutely nothing unless you are a flojob(and the marquez cw never happened in their 'mind').

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      • SCtrojansbaby
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        #73
        Catchweights are awesome when they make sense. For example Sergio Martinez vs Andre Ward at 164 would be amazing

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        • Barry Halls
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          #74
          Nothing if it's not for a title.

          Something like Martinez and Floyd fighting at 156 i would be fine with.
          I would not be fine with Floyd Canelo fighting at 150.

          It's about where fighters can fight comfortably at.

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          • techliam
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            #75
            If both fighters agree to it, then fine. One can always say no to a catchweight

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            • calamaro
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              #76
              Idont like cw intitle fights, but in boxing? Hell yeah.

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              • leathernvouges
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                #77
                ok for those who believe that a catchweight just drains the bigger fighter, what about when the bigger fighter walks inside the ring on fight night his normal fighting weight then what, i could remember commentators saying that chad dawson weighed his normal 183 on fight night and when margarito/paquaio faught pac was out weighed by 17 lbs on fight night i dont c how this gives pac an advantage

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                • Barry Halls
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by leathernvouges
                  ok for those who believe that a catchweight just drains the bigger fighter, what about when the bigger fighter walks inside the ring on fight night his normal fighting weight then what, i could remember commentators saying that chad dawson weighed his normal 183 on fight night and when margarito/paquaio faught pac was out weighed by 17 lbs on fight night i dont c how this gives pac an advantage
                  He'd still had to put much more energy into making weight.
                  His energy is going to have taken a toll for sure.

                  It's not all about fluids.

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                  • Marvellous1
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                    #79
                    I don't have too many problems with catchweights. If it's a non-title fight. Why not? But when challengers are dictating to champs what they must weigh to defend THEIR title, then it's BS. You want that title, fight in the division and you do it on the champs terms. If the weight is a problem, don't fight at it. The simple questions to ask is HOW exactly does it "make things even" and WHY do it if it doesn't make any difference to how a fighter may perform? If you can answer those questions honestly, you'll understand why some don't give those types of victories full credit.

                    In Pacquiao's case, you have to ask, why was 147lbs an ok limit to fight De La Hoya, but not to fight Cotto or Mosley at the time? Was it about how fighting at the weight would affect Pacquiao himself, or was it different rules for different opponents?

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                    • junior gong
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      Dumb ass , going up dont hurt going down does , fans like you got no idea about weight .
                      This has to be the dumbest quote of the day...and there has been some pretty dumb crap posted today.

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