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  • LacedUp
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    #51
    Originally posted by Szef99
    Ok, Grandpa. But you seem to forget that amateur and professional boxing are completely diffrent things. Klitchkos were my favourite fighters fo years so stop calling me a bandwagon fan. Just beacuse they actually are champions and they actually win is the another reasonfor me to like them. You're calling Piacenta a joke fight but what Harrison fight to Haye was? You're bashing Klits on every ocassion yet you don't see weakneses of your favourite fighters. You saw Wlad as an amateur? Well good for you, at least you saw one great amateur who became even greater as a professional.
    Listen, I know you weren't around here at the time, but I was the biggest critic of that fight. And I still to this day feel it shouldn't have been made. I have since excused Haye for it - to some degree saying it made him a lot of money and there was huge interest in that fight. But one mismatch of a stinker is not the same as thompson twice, Mormeck, Wach, Pianeta et al. If you had taken your time to read what I have written about Wladimir - you would have realized I have always thought he was an excellent fighter. That is not the same as fighting excellent opposition. I was a big fan of Vitali as well. I don't find Wladimir particularly entertaining, and a lot of people agree with me on that one, but I have never said he's a bad fighter. Unlike you I actually see flaws and admit flaws in my favourite fighters' arsenal. For example when Haye fought Harrison/Wladimir/Valuev - I criticized him. But guys like yourself come on and say the reason Wlad didn't KO Haye was because Haye "ran" - which is simply just bs. He didn't at any point in the fight. I have also said that the brothers cannot be called top 10 ATGs because of the level they fight against. And that's through no fault of their own, but true nevertheless. A lot of Klitschko fans say they are the greatest of all time - to them I ask: Based on what? Fights against Mormeck and Thompson? No. So before you talk about things of which you have absolutely know idea about, do your research. And actually, Wlad is one of the best Super Heavyweight amateurs I have seen. Lennox is number one.

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    • LacedUp
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      #52
      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
      Where were we, resorting to insults?
      Where's the insult? Have I called you a scouse stiff idiot (original by the way)? Your statements are ******ed. I'm not saying you are, although I could be wrong.

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      • Weltschmerz
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        #53
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Where's the insult? Have I called you a scouse stiff idiot (original by the way)? Your statements are ******ed. I'm not saying you are, although I could be wrong.
        Oh well.

        You seem a bit confused by now, by the way. You started talking about Rahman, Lewis and Vitali all of a sudden.

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        • The Hammer
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          #54
          I'm looking forward to May 4th and seeing Wlad fight again!


          Let the haters hate. No matter who Wladimir fights, they'll complain.

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          • LacedUp
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            #55
            Originally posted by Weltschmerz
            Oh well.

            You seem a bit confused by now, by the way. You started talking about Rahman, Lewis and Vitali all of a sudden.
            I'm confused? You must be confused. You likened Wlad's win over a fat, out of shape and inactive Mormeck to when Haye KO'd him brutally as the main man at cruiserweight. That just makes no sense. Like it wouldn't make any sense to compare Wlad's win over Rahman or Vitali's win over Briggs to Lennox's wins over them. But somehow you make it sound as if it doesn't matter when you fight someone.

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            • DreamFighter
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              #56
              let the klitlickers lick, they will never complain if their man keeps peeing them and telling them its raining by fighting unknowns.

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              • Bigg Rigg
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                #57
                Rather see lightweights fight before I watch a heavyweight snoozer

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                • Szef
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  Harrison was a joke fight, but that doesn't mean this one is less of one.

                  Haye was hardly a decent HW champion.
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Listen, I know you weren't around here at the time, but I was the biggest critic of that fight. And I still to this day feel it shouldn't have been made. I have since excused Haye for it - to some degree saying it made him a lot of money and there was huge interest in that fight. But one mismatch of a stinker is not the same as thompson twice, Mormeck, Wach, Pianeta et al. If you had taken your time to read what I have written about Wladimir - you would have realized I have always thought he was an excellent fighter. That is not the same as fighting excellent opposition. I was a big fan of Vitali as well. I don't find Wladimir particularly entertaining, and a lot of people agree with me on that one, but I have never said he's a bad fighter. Unlike you I actually see flaws and admit flaws in my favourite fighters' arsenal. For example when Haye fought Harrison/Wladimir/Valuev - I criticized him. But guys like yourself come on and say the reason Wlad didn't KO Haye was because Haye "ran" - which is simply just bs. He didn't at any point in the fight. I have also said that the brothers cannot be called top 10 ATGs because of the level they fight against. And that's through no fault of their own, but true nevertheless. A lot of Klitschko fans say they are the greatest of all time - to them I ask: Based on what? Fights against Mormeck and Thompson? No. So before you talk about things of which you have absolutely know idea about, do your research. And actually, Wlad is one of the best Super Heavyweight amateurs I have seen. Lennox is number one.
                  Thompson was mandatory. Mormeck is no excuse but Wach came as a undefeated,bigger and with better reach than Wladimir. I don't think Vitali can be called TOP 10 ATG beacuse of his 4 years break but H2H he would be. As for Wlad if he keep winning untill he'll retire, he will be TOP 10 ATG for sure. Holmes fought in poor era, Tyson didn't beat anybody special yet everybody call them ATGs. And also I don't think Haye ran, but a lot of people say it beacuse all the **** he said before the fight, how he'll KTFO Wlad. The truth is he was scare in that fight and didn't take the risk he said he would. That's why he's a joke. It was 1,5 year ago. If he didn't have such a ego, he'd keep fighting, keep winning and he would be mandatory for either of Klitchkos. He doesn't give a **** about boxing. As for who was better amateur we could argue about it. Wlad had a better record and also was a olympic goldmedalist but we're talking about pro boxing.

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                  • ShamrockXpress
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DreamFighter
                    yep, versus Haye was a good example of what his 'minor' defences should be, since Wlad was fighting a comparative midget yielding 40 lbs in weight to him. Like putting a light-middleweight in the ring with a cruiserweight. Haye was a valid opponent and an interesting media friendly opponent at that time.

                    But this Pianeta isn't a minor fight at all or a keeping busy, its just a plain joke. Is there any HW champion in the past who would consider Pianeta? Even SMW Carl Froch would laugh him off. Hes a failed sparring partner - I mean, wtf?

                    You know how sometimes champions have to pick a late non top ten replacement when their valid opponent gets injured just before a fight? Its like that, but Wlad's bypassed having a valid opponent whogot injured, he instead walked straight into a club level gym and picked up someone duff to defend the world HW title against. He is pissing on the title, actively.
                    You say Haye was a comparative midget, but wasn't holyfield 25-30 pounds lighter than Lewis when they fought? And wasn't lewis 6ft 5? Only an inch smaller than wlad? Don't be bringing Wlads size advantage up to discredit his wins, other heavyweights have had this advantage also

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                    • Weltschmerz
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      I'm confused? You must be confused. You likened Wlad's win over a fat, out of shape and inactive Mormeck to when Haye KO'd him brutally as the main man at cruiserweight. That just makes no sense. Like it wouldn't make any sense to compare Wlad's win over Rahman or Vitali's win over Briggs to Lennox's wins over them. But somehow you make it sound as if it doesn't matter when you fight someone.
                      The point is, doesn't matter who Wlad fights, you will bash him. Wlad fought 'old and fat' Thompson, who then went to destroy Price in 2 rounds. Quite ironic. Maybe Wlad's just too fooking good.

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