Let me ask ya'll this

[thuggery]

When in doubt, bring Pacquiao out!

[thuggery]

When in doubt, bring Pacquiao out!

[-Kev-]

Are you saying you'd rather Martinez not have fought Chavez Jr? That was by far his biggest money fight and most people on here saw Chavez as the #1 contender before the fight.

No, I wanted that fight to happen.

If Floyd had fought a green, unproven, popular fighter he wouldn't have gotten the same praise as Martinez.

[Larry the boss]

JMM came up 2 divisions after being muscled by natural lightweights. Did JMM prove his h2h equal at a lower division? No he did not. Plus you can use your eyes and compare his shape to Pac 3 or 4. On top of everything, Floyd reneged on the CW at the last moment

He was coming up from 135 for the first time. Sort of like Guererro is now. But JMM was testing the waters for the first time. And it was at a CW. lol
Pluse he weighed over the limit. And came in heavier on Fight night. WTF cant you see this?

excuses,and ******ed excuses at that

[HeroBando]

Ortiz only had 1 fight at welterweight before fighting floyd

Judah has never had success at 147 and is fighting at 140 now, where he's had all his success.

Ok so Baldomir and an old mosley are the only real welterweights floyd has fought in 7 years.

In the same span of Margarito, Pacquiao, Cotto, Mosley and williams.

It wasn't even at full welter, it was a 146 CW per his request

[BafanaBafana]

Dude:

1. Pac didn't lose his last 3 by any measure
2. His standard of comp has been ridiculous. Who's fought 3 p4p rated fighters straight in 13 months, one of which is his all time nemesis?

If we go by RING P4P ratings, Martinez fighting P.Will, Pavlik, P.Will, falls within that category with the exception that Bradley wasn't considered a P4P fighter going into the Pac fight.

Personally, I don't consider Bradley to be a P4P fighter, I can't see how anyone does; we're talking about a guy who had the audacity to duck Khan and he also never dominated any division.

Most reporters and posters here think Marquez won the third fight.
Most people on here feel Pac won the fight with Bradley, personally I thought it was close fight (Pac never actually hurt Bradley even though the guy was fighting with two injured ankles) and Bradley was not considered a P4P fighter prior to the Pac fight. There's no excuse for Pac losing to Marquez (except maybe PEDs, but that's hypothetical) the fourth time.

Also when was the last time Pac actually KO'd someone? The guy has gone six fights in a row without a stoppage and we still pretend he's a knockout artist...

[techliam]

Whats wrong with Manny fighting Marquez again? It's pretty obvious they both pose a HUGE risk to eachother. Manny picking to fight Marquez for the 4th time, instead of someone like Bradley, shows how much guts he has, knowing he barely got past him the first three times. It's weird how anyone can criticise him for this.

Also, couldn't give a **** about another Larry-Floyd thread. Just like to look at the terrible reasoning you offer since I need a laugh. Cheers!

[puga]

floyd's resume is so loaded his best win is diego corrales....

[Chuckguy]

So Baldo is not a ww even toho he was 18 pounds bigger??

Ortiz is no real ww even tho he was 15 pounds bigger??

Judah is no real ww even tho he was the former lineal champ?

And how much bigger was Floyd than JMM when he made him go up 2 weight classes then cheated him on the scales? We would never know because he never gives his fight night weight. Gee I wonder why? Maybe because he is bigger than most people think. Larry when are u going o stop *** riding Floyd? Quit humiliating yourself Larry!

[HeroBando]

If we go by RING P4P ratings, Martinez fighting P.Will, Pavlik, P.Will, falls within that category with the exception that Bradley wasn't considered a P4P fighter going into the Pac fight.

Personally, I don't consider Bradley to be a P4P fighter, I can't see how anyone does; we're talking about a guy who had the audacity to duck Khan and he also never dominated any division.

Most reporters and posters here think Marquez won the third fight.
Most people on here feel Pac won the fight with Bradley, personally I thought it was close fight (Pac never actually hurt Bradley even though the guy was fighting with two injured ankles) and Bradley was not considered a P4P fighter prior to the Pac fight. There's no excuse for Pac losing to Marquez (except maybe PEDs, but that's hypothetical) the fourth time.

Also when was the last time Pac actually KO'd someone? The guy has gone six fights in a row without a stoppage and we still pretend he's a knockout artist...

Pavlik was faar removed from being a p4p fighter, I doubt he was top 25.

You'd be shocked to know that on press row cards Pac JMM 3 was a textbook draw, Pac Bradley a one sided rout. Let me know if you need them links.