Schaefer: Peterson vs Matthysse, Brook-Alexander in May in DC possible

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  • DoktorSleepless
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    #51
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    Which will take him off the WBC rankings and take away his biggest leverage, a mando positioning
    Who gives a damn about a mando spot when you can just get another title shot without going through the bullshit? It's not like being a mando means anything for the WBC. And it's not as if Garcia is a huge star in comparison to Peterson.

    Lucas has 2 possible career paths.
    1)Fight a bum in May and fight for the vacant WBC belt against a bum in September when Garcia vacates like a bitch.
    2)Fight Peterson for a title in May and possibly have another decent fight later in the year with the leverage he just got from the IBF belt.
    Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 02-23-2013, 02:08 AM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by ИATAS
      Why? Matthysse is supposed to be Garcia's mandatory. Is it too much to ask for?
      Since when do mandatories matter? You guys use that when its the fighter you like. When its a fighter you hate you bury him with that mandatories dont matter bull****.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
        If you really believe Danny is ducking Matthysse than the WBC rankings wouldnt matter because Danny would just give up the belt. Personally I think Peterson is a better fighter than Danny at this stage in their carreer. I like Danny but if you take away his power hes pretty ordinary. But at the same time I dont think Dannys ducking Matthysse either.
        GBP just pay the WBC off, why else hasnt the WBC champ under GBP not faced his mando in years? Ajose was sidelined for years being told he would get a shot at morales and then Garcia but nope. Then he was told he would have to fight Lucas to become the Mando again. Lucas won, became the mando and Garcia fought Morales and now Judah instead. This ia all while Lucas is the best fighter in the division

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          #54
          Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
          Who gives a damn about a mando spot when you can just get another title shot without going through the bullshit? It's not like being a mando means anything for the WBC. And it's not as if Garcia is a huge star in comparison to Peterson.

          Lucas has 2 possible career paths.
          1)Fight a bum in May and fight for the vacant WBC belt against a bum in September when Garcia vacates like a bitch.
          2)Fight Peterson for a title in May and possibly have another decent fight later in the year with the leverage he just got from the IBF belt.
          It matters when the mando is the top guy and is to fight other top guy in the division. Its not about belts, its about the top 2 fighters fighting to make an actual 140 champ.

          This isnt Mormeck to Vlad. It's the top 2 fighters which are suppose to be forced to fight, why wouldnt you want that?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            GBP just pay the WBC off, why else hasnt the WBC champ under GBP not faced his mando in years? Ajose was sidelined for years being told he would get a shot at morales and then Garcia but nope. Then he was told he would have to fight Lucas to become the Mando again. Lucas won, became the mando and Garcia fought Morales and now Judah instead. This ia all while Lucas is the best fighter in the division
            I could easily argue over the last year Matthysse the most protected fighter in boxing. At least based on the computition hes faced lately. Dallas wasnt a scrub but he wasnt elite.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              It matters when the mando is the top guy and is to fight other top guy in the division. Its not about belts, its about the top 2 fighters fighting to make an actual 140 champ.

              This isnt Mormeck to Vlad. It's the top 2 fighters which are suppose to be forced to fight, why wouldnt you want that?
              Garcia is only the top guy only because a Golden Boy owned magazine says so. Fuck the ring belt. Peterson already beat Khan first, which is still technically a win in the official records despite later testing positive.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                I could easily argue over the last year Matthysse the most protected fighter in boxing. At least based on the computition hes faced lately. Dallas wasnt a scrub but he wasnt elite.
                Well when your promoter is fcuking you over to protect DAnny Garcia, of course you're gonna argue something dumb like that. Why did lucas face Dallas? Because GBP wouldnt let him face Garcia. Then before that he fought Ajose to take care of him because he was getting pesky about facing Garcia being his mando. Ajose is better then anyone Garcia has faced other then Khan.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  Garcia is only the top guy only because a Golden Boy owned magazine says so. Fuck the ring belt. Peterson already beat Khan first, which is still technically a win in the official records despite later testing positive.
                  Garcia is the top guy on everyones rankings, its not about the ring belt. Peterson got a controversial decision 14 months ago and other then that hasnt done crap, along with being a dirty cheater. He can fight him after Garcia

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                    Since when do mandatories matter? You guys use that when its the fighter you like. When its a fighter you hate you bury him with that mandatories dont matter bull****.
                    Mandatories should matter, especially when they make sense as this one does. Fans should want to see them. Im tired of guys and organizations duckind, dodging and making up new rules on the spot. It shouldn't be this complicated but hey its boxing the most ******ed sport in the world.

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                      #60
                      That's a great match up and a good card. This would make a Garcia/Lucas fight even more desirable.

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