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  • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
    and that leaves 8-10 other months to juice, so it renders your version of random testing useless.

    If your version is random testing, why do Olympians not just test when they are competing? Why do they go year round?

    Because its the most effective way kid.

    And no, its not far better. Its the same deal.

    It's not the same deal because the substances they test for is NOT the same! One tests for far more substances. So they testing is not as easy to beat. Hence, the testing is better. A lesser evil is better than a greater evil. No one is arguing that year-round testing isn't most effective. But only a fool would try to argue that the random training camp testing of USADA and VADA isn't better than the Commissions.

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    • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
      It's not the same deal because the substances they test for is NOT the same! One tests for far more substances. So they testing is not as easy to beat. Hence, the testing is better. A lesser evil is better than a greater evil. No one is arguing that year-round testing isn't most effective. But only a fool would try to argue that the training camp testing isn't better than the Commissions.
      Its the same deal when they test in the same time frame, therefore, its not year round testing.

      Now if you want to say they use a different method, thats fine, because they do. But to call it random when its not, is just stupid. Just say the methods are better. But it is not, random testing. Only a fool thinks so just because Floyd said it.

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      • Whats funny is how people actually take stock in what Victor Conte known cheat is saying, he made his bones on PEDs, and admits that he gives fighters these special blends, the only reason he is onboard with Vada is bc he is far and away above and beyond any testing protocal, Conte knows testing is always 4-5 yrs behind and he knows what he is giving his fighters wont flunk any test usda or Vada, why do you think Donair takes them yr round??? why did Berto flunk a test when he went outside of Conte??? do you think he statred taking something different or that he didnt have Conte to know how to ween him off?? what bother Conte about Floyd is that he cant believe in this day and age with all the boxers taking something that FLoyd or any other boxer can compete clean. But Floyd has always had the most insane training camps and trained year around. I dont think Nonito Donaire is clean despite claims of yr round testing im sorry he down with Conter, once a cheat always a cheat

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        • joke!

          keep going mayweather.. clean up the sport by calling everyone a cheater!! funny how he use to call Manny a cheater.. but since he got ko'd by a punch, even thought my boy was getting his ass beat harder than what this clown did to him, he comes out and calls the guy that beat him a cheater.. so why is he simpathetic towards manny if he's a cheater too?? according to him for the past couple years.. ******ed!

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          • Originally posted by junior gong View Post
            Prize idiot. Fighting once a year and only being subject to testing for 2 months of that looks very, very suspicious.
            The chickens have come home to roost on Pac and his fans, who looked down their nose on random testing .. Now that Pac got his ass handed too him now pac fan want scream foul or accuse floyd of using Roids, because they can't explain or except what happen to their hero.

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            • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
              Its the same deal when they test in the same time frame, therefore, its not year round testing.

              Now if you want to say they use a different method, thats fine, because they do. But to call it random when its not, is just stupid. Just say the methods are better. But it is not, random testing. Only a fool thinks so just because Floyd said it.
              It's random testing because when they actually come to get samples, it comes unannounced. You have no idea when they will come, only the potential time it starts and ends. Now is the time frame, flawed? Yes, but please let's not be silly and try to rewrite definitions. Random is random. It's only the start date and end date within 2 months that you know. But what's done in-between is random.

              Now you can talk all you want about how it may be easy to beat, but what happens in between the date is random. By the way, Conte, VADA, and USADA all lay claim that this is called random too.

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              • Originally posted by g-wane View Post
                The chickens have come home to roost on Pac and his fans, who looked down their nose on random testing .. Now that Pac got his ass handed too him now pac fan want scream foul or accuse floyd of using Roids, because they can't explain or except what happen to their hero.
                Memo's athletes have passed over 300 actual olympic drug tests with zero failures..you think USADA and Vada were going to catch JMM if he was on something? You'd have a better chance of stealing Giselle from Tom Brady than being caught doping under Memo's watch

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                • Originally posted by g-wane View Post
                  The chickens have come home to roost on Pac and his fans, who looked down their nose on random testing .. Now that Pac got his ass handed too him now pac fan want scream foul or accuse floyd of using Roids, because they can't explain or except what happen to their hero.
                  Wrong. People looked down on it for just one fighter. Its like asking Kobe Bryant or Lebron James, "you need to take these extra tests, not anyone else, but just you, so you can play". Mostly everyone, even Pac fans said, random testing is fine as long as its year round, and across the board for everyone.

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                  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                    It's random testing because when they actually come to get samples, it comes unannounced. You have no idea when they will come, only the potential time it starts and ends. Now is the time frame, flawed? Yes, but please let's not be silly and try to rewrite definitions. Random is random. It's only the start date and end date within 2 months that you know. But what's done in-between is random.

                    Now you can talk all you want about how it may be easy to beat, but what happens in between the date is random. By the way, Conte, VADA, and USADA all lay claim that this is called random too.
                    Actually, they do know when they will be coming. During training camp. What about the other months of the year? Do they not exist in boxing like they do in the Olympics?

                    Thats why its called Olympic "style". Because its not actually random.

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                    • Originally posted by junior gong View Post
                      Is there going to come a point when you wake up and concede that a fighter choosing the two months of the year he is tested looks ridiculous if regarding that as an effective way to prove he is a 'clean' fighter'......or are you just going to carry on being a twat?
                      I think a guy doing random blood and urine tests for all of his fights for the past 4 years should raise no suspicions from me. Due to the fact that his results are made public record and that it doesn't take a fighter 24/7 365 of random testing to be caught using, hence Berto, Peterson, Morales etc. I also understand that Mayweather himself foots the bill for hiring of USADA which is upward of 100K, so it'd be a bit expensive to keep that up on a yearly basis, especially if his opponents aren't doing the same thing, do you get where I'm coming from? I also think it's quite foolish to raise speculation on 1 of the only fighters who participates in random blood and urine testing based off of mere uneducated conspiracy theories as many of you in the Anti Floyd Fan Club so adamantly love to indulge in. Now, I've answered your question. Answer me this, Why hasn't Pacquiao done any random testing? Why did it take him 3 years to agree to Floyd's testing demands, and why are we questioning Floyd's testing methods but refusing to look at Manny? Because let's be honest, that's what you're alluding to even if you don't want to admit it, you want us to stop questioning Manny and start questioning Floyd, the guy that actually does test.

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