What kind of offense is effective against a shoulder roll?

[Outwest Exp 355]

He still implemented the shoulder roll then. The thread isnt about Mayweather but just a general question about the shoulder roll defense, and which offensive style counteracts that defense the best.

I agree that pressure and creative, intelligent feinting definitely helps.

The first thing you need is a good jab. The shoulder roll is designed to protect you on the inside. So you need to use the jab to create space so you can get your combonations off.

[UrDazed]

The importance of having a strong jab is exaggerated. Was Castillo a strong jabber? Nah he was a highly educated swarmer

Chavez' chief sparring partner for years. He had a consistent jab, and most of his stuff came OFF of the jab, he did so many things right in there. Jabbing up and down, hooking off of the jab, feinting the jab and ****ing rights to the body.

Totally underestimated fighter.

[GrandpaBernard]

Chavez' chief sparring partner for years. He had a consistent jab, and most of his stuff came OFF of the jab, he did so many things right in there. Jabbing up and down, hooking off of the jab, feinting the jab and ****ing rights to the body.

Totally underestimated fighter.

I haven't watched the fight in months. What I remember is Castillo feinting Floyd to the ropes. It was mostly Floyd doing the jabbing.

[GrandpaBernard]

nvm I just rewatched the first round. You're right Castillo made use of his jab to cut down distance

Floyd's hook was real live

[UrDazed]

nvm I just rewatched the first round. You're right Castillo made use of his jab to cut down distance

Floyd's hook was real live

Loved Castillo. Beat Casa, Corrales, could have gotten the decision against Floyd, beat Lazcano, Julio, Johnston....damned good resume.

[MRBOOMER]

Jab, straight left from the southpaw stance, overhand right, right hook to the body, uppercut.

They work but they need to be perfectly timed right hook ain't really anything unless its monstrous because if you take that punch the other person will most likely put them self in position to get with a counter right hook uppercut or straight. Over hand right are tough to land cause you can roll those off. So really only the uppercut and straight left are super effective.

[MRBOOMER]

The first thing you need is a good jab. The shoulder roll is designed to protect you on the inside. So you need to use the jab to create space so you can get your combonations off.

Doubt you'll keep that up if you get hit with enough of these.