Would Floyd fighting Manny now be considered fighting Marquez's leftovers?

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  • Marvellous1
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    #11
    So by that logic, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley and Margarito were all someone else's leftovers as they'd all recently lost (and some of them badly) before Pacquiao beat them. No?

    I don't think that personally but if you're so quick apply that logic, apply it everywhere.

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    • shade darkar
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      #12
      i still want to see it but this fight should have happened in 09. shame mayweather was scared to challenge himself.

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      • Marvellous1
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        Yeah. No opponent screams "challenge" like Joshua Clottey.

        They all scrambled for the easier option as it kept the money flowing for lesser risk.

        Question. Do people think Donaire's stance of "no test, no fight" againt Rigo, is a fear of challenging himself? Just curious.

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        • Jam Jars
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          #14
          Fans always say a fighter will get credit and if he gets outclassed they will say he's shot. Lose/Lose situation for Mayweather.

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          • BlackSnakeMamba
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            #15
            Pacquiao needs to win a fight againts a solid contender or a belt holder in the Welterweight Division. Mayweather would beat any version of Manny Pacquiao.

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            • RapidFire_Royce
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              #16
              Originally posted by Marvellous1
              So by that logic, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley and Margarito were all someone else's leftovers as they'd all recently lost (and some of them badly) before Pacquiao beat them. No?

              I don't think that personally but if you're so quick apply that logic, apply it everywhere.
              That's what I didn't understand about the whole "leftovers" thing, wouldn't that mean in some way everyone was someone elses leftovers unless they were undefeated at the time of the fight? It has been used quite a bit to discredit wins. (not just for Floyd but just for boxers in general).

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              • boliodogs
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                Mayweather started that ****** leftover stuff and by that logic yes Pacquiao would be Marquez's leftovers. Of course that means when Mayweather fought Marquez he was fighting Pacquiao's leftovers since Pacquiao had two wins over Marquez. When Floyd beat Cotto he just beat more Pacquiao leftovers by the ****** leftover logic.

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                • Cuadra
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                  #18
                  Is Pac not 2-1-1 against Marquez???? History must have changed?

                  How is that leftovers when Pac is up on the win ratio????? 1 KO doesn't mean Marquez is better than Pac unless theres a 5th fight and it happens again with Marquez getting another KO win over Pac.

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                  • RapidFire_Royce
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cuadra
                    Is Pac not 2-1-1 against Marquez???? History must have changed?

                    How is that leftovers when Pac is up on the win ratio????? 1 KO doesn't mean Marquez is better than Pac unless theres a 5th fight and it happens again with Marquez getting another KO win over Pac.
                    You bring up another point what determines which fighter is considered the left over? do you go by the win loss record? or who had the most clear cut victory? I hope it shows that there really is no way to logically apply something like this. It just seems like on both sides everyone finds a way to discredit wins. Even Andre Ward who through the super 6 fought everyone of importance at the time gets his wins discredited at times because they were all "at home" and Dawson even though prior to the fight he said the weight was a non issue changed and said it was after the fight.

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                    • BoxingFollower
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                      #20
                      Floyd gets NO credit for beating Pacquiao now.
                      Pacquiao would have to go on a rampage like he did back in 2009..
                      which due to age and him being distracted probably wont happen.

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