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  • Tony B.
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    #81
    Originally posted by edgarg
    Having re-read your post, I want to add something Concerning "footstomps". In their 3rd fight, it is on record that Marquez stepped ON Pacquiao's foot 28 times. There may have been more, but I saw 28. Nearly every time it was a definite "a foot standing on top of another" kind of thing. I'm not saying it was one-sided, but where Pacquiao's foot touched Marquez', he immediately moved it away, and they were side-touches.

    Pacquiao was being actually pinned so that he couldn't pull away for a second ot two, which threw off his balance causing him to flail helplessly, whilst Marquez was able to pinpoint accurate combinations at a monemtarily static target. It was in these exchanges that Marquez scored most of his points.

    Have a look......please..... In round 12, Marquez can bee seen to raise his foot and place it right on top of Pacquiao's. Pacquiao pulls hard and moves his foot back TWO paces. Marquez still KEEPS his foot on top of Pacquioa's and MOVES TWO PACES WITH HIM.

    This could be nothing but deliberate and I believe it was not a fair contest.

    I've seen a close-up slo mo video of the KO in the 4th fight, and it was clear that Pacquiao actually tripped over Marquez" utstretched foot and fell face first right into Marquez' punch.
    It wasn't a deliberate trip, but it happened. By the time that the punch connected, Marquez' head and shoulders were actually partly behind Pacquiao, and neither he nor Pacquiao could have seen the punch landing. This made it all the more devastating.

    I was a featherweight sparring a former national welterweight champ, much taller. He was pushing and batting me around the ring, and I let go with a huge desperation right hand. I myself didn't know where it would land, if anywhere. My head ended down at waist-high, but the guy stopped and said I nearly broke his jaw. It was just one of those unexpected things, and I can't help but see a similar one in Pacquiao-Marquez 4.
    Is this a joke? If not, then there is absolutely no way you've ever been in a ring....lol
    Get the f@ck out with that "I sparred with a top welterweight" non-sense. Lol

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    • YOU WILL LOSE
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      #82
      Originally posted by edgarg
      Having re-read your post, I want to add something Concerning "footstomps". In their 3rd fight, it is on record that Marquez stepped ON Pacquiao's foot 28 times. There may have been more, but I saw 28. Nearly every time it was a definite "a foot standing on top of another" kind of thing. I'm not saying it was one-sided, but where Pacquiao's foot touched Marquez', he immediately moved it away, and they were side-touches.

      Pacquiao was being actually pinned so that he couldn't pull away for a second ot two, which threw off his balance causing him to flail helplessly, whilst Marquez was able to pinpoint accurate combinations at a monemtarily static target. It was in these exchanges that Marquez scored most of his points.

      Have a look......please..... In round 12, Marquez can bee seen to raise his foot and place it right on top of Pacquiao's. Pacquiao pulls hard and moves his foot back TWO paces. Marquez still KEEPS his foot on top of Pacquioa's and MOVES TWO PACES WITH HIM.

      This could be nothing but deliberate and I believe it was not a fair contest.

      I've seen a close-up slo mo video of the KO in the 4th fight, and it was clear that Pacquiao actually tripped over Marquez" utstretched foot and fell face first right into Marquez' punch.
      It wasn't a deliberate trip, but it happened. By the time that the punch connected, Marquez' head and shoulders were actually partly behind Pacquiao, and neither he nor Pacquiao could have seen the punch landing. This made it all the more devastating.

      I was a featherweight sparring a former national welterweight champ, much taller. He was pushing and batting me around the ring, and I let go with a huge desperation right hand. I myself didn't know where it would land, if anywhere. My head ended down at waist-high, but the guy stopped and said I nearly broke his jaw. It was just one of those unexpected things, and I can't help but see a similar one in Pacquiao-Marquez 4.
      dont ask for the 5th fight if you dont want the "foot stomps" to happen again.

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      • ADP02
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        #83
        Originally posted by NatiKid
        kinda funny how the arguments are completely reversed. it used to be pac fans saying how many times do we got fight marquez 4 5 6 7 times? now its pac fans saying pac deserves a fight and marquez fans saying no. kinda funny how boxing fans work me included
        Not sure who are all these Manny fans that didn't want it. The only time that Manny fans didn't want it was the 3rd but it was because they thought that Marquez can't make weight and come in shape as they used the Floyd fight as their barometer. That is, because they thought it wouldn't be a competitive fight Marquez came in bigger than Manny then things changed. Once Marquez did well in the fight then many wanted to see #4.

        #4 was one of those "fight of the year" fights. How can one not want to see a probable #5 after that ...........

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        • mathed
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          #84
          JMM is right,I personally don't want them to fight again. I mean when does it end? Say Pac beats JMM by decision again, they are just going to go for match #6, and then if JMM wins a decision, it's off to #7. If any of the fights are close, well they have to do another rematch because it wasn't conclusive enough.

          I love watching boxing but I've already seen the same fight 4 times now with one KO thrown in there. I'd imagine at this point JMM knows Pac so well that he is capable of knocking him out every time they fight now.

          Pac was faster than JMM last time out yet JMM was able to knock Pac down which he was not capable of doing in the first 3 fights and then he finished it up with the KO. He has Pac's movements memorized now and Pac won't be able to switch his technique up enough to trick JMM. It's a done deal......it's over, time to move on to something else.
          Last edited by mathed; 02-14-2013, 09:55 PM.

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          • Scarcaztic
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            #85
            Will EASILY be the most anticipated fight between them. EVERYONE'S going to be on the lookout for a big KO from JMM. When the opening bell rings, OMFG!

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            • BlackSnakeMamba
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              #86
              Manny needs to improve his defense if he wants to beat JMM. If he doesn't change his strategy and fighting style I feel that JMM will KO him again.

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              • HeroBando
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                #87
                Originally posted by BTTAG145
                That was just pure hatred right and nothing you said had any merit or truth to it. You went off on a tirade simply because your a fanboy and can't deal with the fact your crush got KTFO. It's also insulting for you to infer that JMM doesn't have fans of his own and only Mayweather fans are speaking out..
                Most of JMM fans would love to see him Knock that fraud Pacquiao out again after getting robbed 3 times in the past already. JMM don't have nothing to prove anymore he already proved he is Pacs daddy.
                50/50 will probably get the fight done though.
                Just can't get over how disrespectful some of you pac fans are.
                The nerve some of you have implying JMM is on roids. Saying he cheated with foot stomps and every excuse under the sun.
                Have some damn dignity and while you're at it cut out that racist talk.
                None of the Pac JMM decisions were robberies, very close fights. There's press rows scores on boxrec, check them out. Robberies are fights like Pac Bradley, or Abril Rios, where there's no argument.

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                • Brassangel
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                  #88
                  I think it would be a great fight. Pacquiao was fighting well and pulling ahead in momentum before succumbing to the perfect shot. I think it would generate a ton of excitement. They should really consider putting it on a mainstream network like ABC or something.

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                  • Fighting_Pride
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                    #89
                    arum is starting to sound like a gold diggin' ex wife who's bitter about a divorce

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                    • DeadLikeMe
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                      #90
                      I really don't care if they have a fifth fight or not. 3 close matches and a brutal KO, that settles things IMO. Would I watch it? Of course. Nobody really wants a 5th fight except asspained pac fanboys who can't get over the entire internet/world laughing at their hero laying lifeless on the canvas for five minutes.

                      I hope JMM puts up a crazy 60/40 demand or something...he needs to get all he can out of Arum's coin purse

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