greedy Guerrero proving its all about money

[sicko]

$4 Million is fair, what is wrong with that? Bradley got $5 Million to fight Pacquiao so I think $4 Million is fair for a PPV Fight and on top of that Guerrero is not going to get any PPV Sales Money so a clean $4 Million I think is fair

[-Kev-]

$4 Million is fair, what is wrong with that? Bradley got $5 Million to fight Pacquiao so I think $4 Million is fair for a PPV Fight and on top of that Guerrero is not going to get any PPV Sales Money so a clean $4 Million I think is fair

Bradley and Pacquiao are in the same promotional company. Guerrero is in GBP, GBP WORKS on behalf of Mayweather, they have a good working relationship. That's all. Guerrero is not entitled to $4million dollars.

Also, Braldey-Pacquiao undercard. If Canelo-Trout happens on May 4th, that is basically a main event within itself, and that is not cheap to pull off. You'll have make Mayweather, Guerrero, Canelo and Trout happy about their pay days.

[Larry the boss]

You made an alt just to post this?

[ElMeroChingon]

Lol let Floyd go fight Devon, lmao

[sicko]

Bradley and Pacquiao are in the same promotional company. Guerrero is in GBP, GBP WORKS on behalf of Mayweather, they have a good working relationship. That's all. Guerrero is not entitled to $4million dollars.

Also, Braldey-Pacquiao undercard. If Canelo-Trout happens on May 4th, that is basically a main event within itself, and that is not cheap to pull off. You'll have make Mayweather, Guerrero, Canelo and Trout happy about their pay days.

I take that back after looking it up, Victor Ortiz got $2 Million so and JMM $3.2 (+$600k extra because of the weight thing) vs Mayweather so it is no ***in way Guerrero should make more then them to fight Mayweather so no he shouldn't get $4 Million

$2-2.5 Million is more then fair! Giving Guerrero $4 Million would also drive up the asking price for the next potential opponent as well

[Reloaded]

They prize fighters , nothing wrong with trying to get the best deal you can , if a guy is going to make 20-30 mill to fight me Im sure Im going to be pushing for all I can get .

[ADP02]

That's not a good comparison. Because there is a huge, huge, huge difference between the caliber of opponents Floyd fought at age 29 and below versus the opponents Guerrero has faced at age 29 and under. Berto was his best and most popular win.

The difference you are talking about doesn't prove your point at all.

apples and oranges again. I don't care if Guerrero gets $1 for this fight as I agree that his resume is not great. I have said that since hearing a year or so ago that Guerrero might be Floyd's opponent.

The poster said that what Guerrero is doing is the same thing that Floyd always does so why criticize on Floyd and not Guerrero? I say no its different. If Guerrero is stalling this because of money, it has nothing to do with Guerrero ducking the riskier fights. At least, he hasn't proved to be that kind of guy.

Floyd has not necessarily been criticized for wanting more money. He has been criticized for not taking on risky opponents even when the money was more than right. Floyd has had many excuses as to why his fights don't materialize. Again, apples and oranges!

[archiemoore1]

i was taught as a kid never to count anyone else's money. has anyone else ever heard this teaching? it's disgustiing to sit here and read a bunch of grown men actually argue back and forth about what somebody else is getting paid. one even says, "WE might give robert some more crumbs", like HE has something to do with these negotiations. whatever these fighters are getting is way way more than what anyone in this blog is getting, so what does it matter what they might be or are getting?

[Rome-By-Ko]

I read he is trying to get 4mil when Floyd is the real attraction. He should be happy with whatever offer we throw at him and be happy to be getting the chance. Gotta respect him for trying though. We might throw Robert some xtra crumbs for bossing up:

Just lets yall know its always about the money but people only get on Floyd for thinking like that.

1) Bradley's highest payday going into the Pacquiao fight was in excess of 2 million ( when he fought Alexander).

2) You say even Arum but how much did he pay Clottey for his fight with Pacquiao? If I remember things correctly the stadium owner took pity on Clottey and threw an extra 1 mil his way.

3) The amount offered to Guerrero is a reasonable fee. 1 mil is the most he's ever earned, 2.5 mil would more than double that.

I agree with both these points,Guerrero has to understand he has not made much bank in the sport of boxing..I truly believe 3mill is a very good offer..But I can't be mad at Guerrero feeling he should be paid more then that,this sport is all about getting top dollar for your fight...Guerrero has to understand tho,you crawl before you walk..

Good post fellas..

[HeroBando]

with respect, who is BPP and what is he to the negotiations? i have no clue.



gentlemen, of course Floyd Mayweather is greedy. of course an offer of 2.5 million dollars is not overly generous. that's the name of the game. does Robert Guerrero want to be where Floyd Mayweather is or not? when Mayweather wanted to be where Oscar De La Hoya was, he accepted that he would give up 68% of the split to De La Hoya. he accepted that he would fight in a ring that would be sized to De La Hoya's liking. he accepted that he would wear the Reyes gloves that De La Hoya wanted him to wear. why? because he was determined to beat the man and become the man by doing so. granted that Floyd was paid much more in that fight and received a higher percentage of the split than Guerrero is being offered here here, but, guess what? Mayweather was the pound for pound Picasso. he had already headlined PPV events. he had already made multi-million dollar purses. he had beaten titlists in every division he'd ever fought in. and knowing that he needed to beat 'the man' to get to the next level, he accepted what he had to accept to get that fight on. on the other hand, has anyone seen who this big bully Guerrero won his IBF 126 and 130 titles from and successfully defended them against? 140lb Gatti and Baldomir are veritable live bodies by comparison to the guys Guerrero took titles from, and i'm not even going to get into the disparity between he and Floyd's achievements at 130. Guerrero hasn't even unified a pair of flimsy title belts. lately he's been an interim king. more important than title belts won, his body of work is straight up thin, his best wins are an ancient Casa, Katsidis coming off a brutal stoppage loss, plus life and death struggles with an undistinguished clubber in Aydin and a Berto coming off a long layoff who had laboured and received a dubious win against Jan Zaveck in his previous fight.

and, yes, Bradley reportedly received $5,000,000 for the Pacquiao fight despite bringing little to the table economically, but he was significantly more accomplished and respected than Guerrero, too - pound for pound rated fighter, twice unified, had beaten Witter more impressively than anyone had at that point, had dominated Holt, had dominated Alexander, had dominated Peterson, etc. Bradley brought with him some creditability, a level of recognizable esteem, that Guerrero does not.

2.5 million is still double Guerrero's best payday so far and he should be biting Mayweather's hand off to prove that he's the best.

With respect, you got 900+ posts and you haven't noticed half the threads you post in are started by BPP?

You've also written essays in this thread based on the assumption Guerrero wants more money. This is not clear. Here's what Dan Rafael had to say yesterday:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...ith-dan-rafael

Micah (Phoenix)

I'm sure Mayweather's tweet was a ploy to get Guerrero to settle for 2M instead of 4M

Dan Rafael (D$) (2:52 PM)

Not true. I am told Guerrero's deal is in place. Money long ago agreed to.


Tom (Atlanta)

So are you saying all the Alexander stuff is BS and a deal is already in place?
Dan Rafael (D$) (2:55 PM)

I know the Guerrero side is done. But the fight cant be finalized until Floyd signs, so he might be looking elsewhere. But the point is whatever the delay has nothing to do with Ghost asking for more money. Maybe Floyd decided he doesnt want to fight him. Maybe Floyd has an injury. Maybe there is a problem between Floyd/Haymon and Schaefer on which network to go to. It could be a lot of things, but it isn't a problem with the Guerrero side of the deal.