Devon Alexander is massively underrated

[Rip Chudd]

What i'd like to know is... does jabs count?

[turkas]

oh, but i acknowledged his consistency in scoring for a fighter who the network is trying to build or push over an an opponent who is perceived as much less valuable.



oh dear. all it takes to control the pace of a fight is to move away and put out inaccurate volume while being cut off and tagged by the better quality punches? that's ring generalship? doesn't take much to convince some people.

I like how you left out all the other things I pointed out that Devon did better. And I hate to tell, but ring generalship is a scoring criteria and Devon did control in that fight.

Perhaps you should dust off a copy and re watch the fight, it's still fresh in my mind seeing I just watched it yesterday.

[S. Saddler 1310]

I like how you left out all the other things I pointed out that Devon did better. And I hate to tell, but ring generalship is a scoring criteria and Devon did control in that fight.

Perhaps you should dust off a copy and re watch the fight, it's still fresh in my mind seeing I just watched it yesterday.

i overlooked nothing. your argument is that Devon moving away and putting out inaccurate volume while being cut off and tagged by the better quality punches represented control of the ring and the pace of the fight. Devon's movement might have controlled the fight, were Kotelnik not so adept at cutting him off. his largely inaccurate volume might have won him the fight, were Kotelnik not consistently landing the better punches. Alexander was not the ring-general in that fight. he moved his feet and fists, because that's all he could do against the steady, scientific pressure of Kotelnik, but he didn't move hand or foot to any particular controlling effect. Kotelnik walked him down, cut him off and landed the better punches. that's control, that's generalship.

i have seen the fight a number of times, sir.

[S. Saddler 1310]

Alexander lost the battle of the jabs, too, which was a big part of the ring-generalship tussle in this fight. Alexander threw lots of them, but Kotelnik out-timed him, was much more accurate getting his stick through the gaps that were left as Alexander's jab either fell short or touched gloves.


Alexander was well out-techniqued and outboxed.



edit: Devon was better at making barking dog noises, though. he won in that category.

[pnksntdead]

i remember looking forward to that fight but got incredibly disappointed. bradley toyed with his ass and made him quit. he's a good boxer but totally unproven at 147 and he unperformed against quality opposition at 140. good not great but look for people to make out to be the next Ali now that Floyd may fight him

[S. Saddler 1310]

btw, if someone were to be astute in trying to defend Devon, they would at least mention his work to the body against Kotelnik. that is one area where you could boost his case a little.

[junior gong]

I like how you left out all the other things I pointed out that Devon did better. And I hate to tell, but ring generalship is a scoring criteria and Devon did control in that fight.

Perhaps you should dust off a copy and re watch the fight, it's still fresh in my mind seeing I just watched it yesterday.

Ring generalship....???? I cant be arsed to read through the thread, but are you still trying to claim that the Kotelnik fight was close???

The only thing that was close about that fight was Kotelnik almost pitching a shutout.

[junior gong]

btw, if someone were to be astute in trying to defend Devon, they would at least mention his work to the body against Kotelnik. that is one area where you could boost his case a little.

...and only a little. I was horrified by the result of that fight, it was just plain wrong. The Matthyse decision was poor, but the Kotelnik one was an absolute stinker.

[daggum]

alexander is actually a bum in disguise

[DARKSEID]

How can a guy that lost to mathysse and Bradley be underrated?

Did you even watch the mathysse fight? He lost the entire second half of the fight.

He lost against good Jr Welterweights and that makes him ready for the best welterweight? Wow lol

edit: Havent seen the kotelnik fight yet. Will do so later