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  • #41
    Originally posted by Angry Cuban View Post
    Me too man...and I won't want nothing back from him..Roniel Iglecias is also very skilled and incredible fast..
    I saw both but was most impressed by Robeisy kid is a Pitbull

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    • #42
      Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
      I saw both but was most impressed by Robeisy kid is a Pitbull
      Yes he is.....

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      • #43
        Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
        Quality over Quantity i get it lol it is sad tho so few have even the chance to break out of their slave prison. Imagine what they could accomplish on an even playing field, if with just a very small group, to accomplish world stage so regularly when it takes others thousands of guys to achieve . Because Cuba does have a very strong boxing culture but no chance of showcasing it at a world stage other than the amateurs.

        The fact that Cuban boxers are Competing at such high level in the pros in boxing still amazes me. And when people talk shit about them being old. It sickens me it's not easy for a 18 year old whos only dream he has that he has been told to have is achieve olympic gold to just say" fk it fk my family im gone ill get on a rubber tube and if i by some miracle make it alive ill try to turn pro"
        Indeed, it's quality over quantity. No one else has such a high success : participation ratio. However, I must admit, as someone alluded to before, if Cubans were free to go pro, there would be many more weak Cuban fighters in the pros. Then again, there would be a few more champions. I think in the end it would all balance out. The point is that Cubans would be a real force in today's sport. We're not doing bad as it is, with limited manpower.

        It's clear that many of the posters on this site are ignorant to the plight of Cubans on the island. Can't say I blame them. Most people are only aware of what directly concerns them, and sometimes not even that. lol I've read on more than one occasion, comments like, "Rigo turned pro this late? What was he thinking?" lol It's sad to think of all the wasted talent. It's even sadder to think of all the general human suffering....

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        • #44
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          I noticed the hate for Cuban boxers from Mexicans fans lately, what's up with that, when did this hatred started? Because Abril beat Rios, and Gamboa beat Ponce De Leon? That's the only reason I can think of.
          Just the usual dickheads being...well...dickheads.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by commodus View Post
            i don't hate them

            but there fanatical post's have rubbed me the wrong way lately
            Speak of the devil....

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            • #46
              First of all , what's up with saying "her" when addressing P.R? Not cool , but I guess you mad. Anyways , to my point.

              I believe Cuban boxers are polished and over used in the am's. With a huge advantage by also not being able to turn pro which works in their favor in the Olympics. So if Cuban fighters were able to turn pro before , then all their Olympic merits and am's records wouldnt exist.

              Not only that , their talent wouldnt be the same. Do you think Rigo would have captured 2 gold medals and had 350+ fights if he would have turned pro at 18 or 19. Not very likely. Do you know what 350+ fights dominating less experience fighters allow you to do. Polish the shot out of your skills. At least IMO. That's why I think these Cuban fighters are so good at being pure boxers. You never see a brawler from Cuban. Or a slow fighter without good movement. Those fighters spend years tuning and polishing their skills. Then they take them to the Olympics and capture gold against real amateurs. So you can't have it both ways.

              Maybe if they were free and allowed to join the pro ranks earlier there would be more. Maybe with more heart too. And maybe you wouldn't have those gold medals.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Angry Cuban View Post
                Hello my friend...hope you are doing good...
                Bro..most of those cuban fighters are old more than 75 % of the ones listed in boxrec are older than 30..that leave little room for future but we have some good guys coming out soon..in the whole boxrec I found like 5 who are less than 24..even yoelbis Gamboa and sulivan barrera have 26 and 30 and I thought they were kids..only Socarras(19), Santana(24) Rances(26) and pedro Rodriguez (26) have some time for improvement...anyways..if you look at the win/loss ratio is so hight in wins..even in unknow fighters..somebody mention that this is because the ones who know that they know how to fight are the onlyones who risk but this is not like that...we had so much champion material there..so many ATG material who never go pro...do you imagine if the late 90's generation would have come over here...they were so many and so skillful.....Lorenzo Aragon, Arnaldo Mesa, Teofilo Stevenson, Enrique Carrion, Ariel Hernandez, Mario Kindelan, Felix Savon, Roberto Balado, Jorge Gutierrez, Maikro Romero, Daniel Regalado, Martinez fiz, Orlando Duvergel...and many more...somebody need to bring here Robeisis and Iglecias now that they still very young and they both olympic champ alredy and they are less than 20 years old...
                Hey, bro! Que bola? Doing good. Hope you are, too!

                Yeah, a lot of our fighters are old, or getting old. I don't even want to think of the past; it's gone. We must look towards the future. Robeisy Ramirez is only 18. I would love to see how he would do with a top professional trainer at such a young age. He has a real future. He doesn't strike me as some kid that wouldn't adjust to the pros. He looked real good in London. It's too bad he's probably too young to pack up and set sail for freedom.

                Roniel Iglesias is 24. He's already pushing the envelope, age wise, if we're to see his best professional potential. Casamayor made it to U.S. shores and turned pro when he was 25. I think that embarking on a professional career in your mid-twenties is already a roll of the dice. By then, the amateur ways might be too ingrained. It all depends on the fighter, of course, but it's not something many should do by choice.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
                  I saw both but was most impressed by Robeisy kid is a Pitbull
                  Another thing about Rob is that he's a very likeable kid. He really gave you the impression that he was having fun in London. Like the proverbial kid in a candy store. Great energy. I think he would be very marketable in the U.S.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                    Another thing about Rob is that he's a very likeable kid. He really gave you the impression that he was having fun in London. Like the proverbial kid in a candy store. Great energy. I think he would be very marketable in the U.S.
                    That's why i liked him the best of the two, he's style he makes it look easy which i'm sure it wasn't that Mongolian finals dude was a beast but once the kid figures someone out he's just fun to watch picking guys apart and enjoying it.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                      Speak of the devil....

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