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Dan Rafael thinks Vitali Klitschko beats the heavyweight greats of the past. (link)
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Originally posted by WladimirK View PostSo historically, he's overrated, but also historically, he'd do well H2H.
You really need to elaborate.
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Originally posted by WladimirK View PostSomething else than lame hatred of the Klitschko's would be appreciated too. You didn't move on from that point.
So you've accused me of my fresh point being an old point, whilst you've made the same old point yourself. Thats the height of misguided hypocrisy there, but no worries, mate.Last edited by DreamFighter; 01-26-2013, 03:01 PM.
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Originally posted by WladimirK View PostSo historically, he's overrated, but also historically, he'd do well H2H.
You really need to elaborate.
They are unlucky (and in financial terms, very lucky probably) to have ruled in such a ****ty division. It's significantly weak in historical terms.
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Who's he the "head nut jobber" here???? Imagine either Bros getting nailed with a Larry Holmes jab and right hand!! Its so ridiculous to think that these two big, stiff, novices could stand in with any well seasoned top pro!
You have to be a "true fan" to think they could be competitive against top level greats!! You know.........."Fanatic" HA!! Nuts Ray.
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Originally posted by tonyjones View PostYour very naive or maybe bitter if you think vitali is not a top level fighter I'm not sayin he wrecks all the atg but I reckon he beats the smaller men Marciano,Dempsey,Louis ........nothing worse when people in any sport exaggerate talents of athletes from the past
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostHis resume is crap. He's never beat the top fighter at heavyweight and only defended the title once as true champion against Danny Williams. All time greatness is based on all time accomplishments. Head to head can be used to an extent, but its basically a guessing game with not solid foundation.
Together with his brother, he's written hw history, the brothers holding all belts simultaneously, with dominance and longevity.
He's a legend.
Comparing present day fighters with past day fighters will always be a guessing game, regardless of 'historical' achievements.
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Originally posted by WladimirK View PostHe's had all time accomplishments being a three time world champion, holding the second highest KO ratio of all hw champs, has never lost a decision, and in both defeats he was ahead on the scorecards when being stopped.
Together with his brother, he's written hw history, the brothers holding all belts simultaneously, with dominance and longevity.
He's a legend.
Comparing present day fighters with past day fighters will always be a guessing game, regardless of 'historical' achievements.
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