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  • DLT
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    #51
    Originally posted by oldgringo
    Cotto has not fought a premier name yet. However, his resume through this point in his career has been better than many others. I hate when people call Pinto a never was. Just because he lost to the better fighter doesn't mean he wasn't/isn't still, 1. skilled, and 2. dangerous. Bojado lost to Leija but he is still a skilled fighter who can have success later on in his career just like Pinto. David Reid was highly skilled and had a somewhat promising future if not for Tito and his eye.

    N'Dou would give Tszyu, Mayweather, Harris and the rest of the 140 lot hell. He's incredibly durable and fights at a fierce pace. I believe that he is the guy that put Cotto past being a prospect and now made him a contender. In Cotto's last three fights he's fought the young, rangy, puncher/boxer in Pinto...the tough as nails, boxer/brawler in N'Dou...and the big puncher (albeit somewhat washed up big puncher) in Bailey. In my eyes, he's is no longer a prospect. Even if Corley somehow managed to beat him (it'll never happen), I'd still back Cotto 100% to beat any guy at 140. You CANNOT dismiss a young fighter just because they lose 20 some odd fights into their career.
    Do you know anything about boxing? Go look at the opponents and the record of the people Pinto fought. Go look at N'Dou's opponents and his record.

    How could you say something so dumb like if he loses to Corley you still think that he can beat anyone at 140. That shows that you are clearly a Cotto nuthugger and you have no credability in these debates

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    • onikami
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      #52
      Still not truely convinced with Cotto. His tough but definately beatable. KT would almost certainly stop the little upstart.

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      • oldgringo
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        #53
        Originally posted by DLT
        Do you know anything about boxing? Go look at the opponents and the record of the people Pinto fought. Go look at N'Dou's opponents and his record.

        How could you say something so dumb like if he loses to Corley you still think that he can beat anyone at 140. That shows that you are clearly a Cotto nuthugger and you have no credability in these debates

        Here let me re-adjust what I said before. Cotto will NOT lose to Corley. I think theres no way of it possibly happening. However, if somehow Corley hit him with some monsterous unseen left hook that knocked him down and then eventually got him out of there...I wouldn't dismiss him as still being a threat at 140. Although I do not believe it will ever happen, I wouldn't write him off if it did. You seem to have another agenda about fighters that lose still being a threat.

        Do you base EVERYTHING on record? You cannot see past N'Dou's record (which actually isn't that bad) and admit that he's a tough opponent? What factors can one use to judge a fighter with early in their career besides talent and how he has performed against his opponents? Remember, many people were picking Pinto to beat Cotto because of what happened in the amateurs.

        Anyway, call me whatever you like, but just seeing your redundant arguments AGAINST a fighter you claim to like confuses me. I have never seen you acknowledge anything he does well...it's always just, "everyone who thinks Cotto could beat Tszyu or my boy Mayweather is a nuthugger and knows nothing about boxing...anyone who thinks Cotto has beaten good opposition this far through 23 fights is wrong." You seem to be quite alone in your debates about Cotto. I have never said that Cotto is the greatest in the world or that he is unbeatable or any of that. I have only said that based on what I have seen of him, he certainly has a great shot at having a great career and beating the top guys at 140 on up in the near future.
        Last edited by oldgringo; 01-12-2005, 11:53 PM.

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        • borikua
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          #54
          Cotto's team announced that the fight will be in PR...

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          • DLT
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            #55
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            Here let me re-adjust what I said before. Cotto will NOT lose to Corley. I think theres no way of it possibly happening. However, if somehow Corley hit him with some monsterous unseen left hook that knocked him down and then eventually got him out of there...I wouldn't dismiss him as still being a threat at 140. Although I do not believe it will ever happen, I wouldn't write him off if it did. You seem to have another agenda about fighters that lose still being a threat.

            Do you base EVERYTHING on record? You cannot see past N'Dou's record (which actually isn't that bad) and admit that he's a tough opponent? What factors can one use to judge a fighter with early in their career besides talent and how he has performed against his opponents? Remember, many people were picking Pinto to beat Cotto because of what happened in the amateurs.

            Anyway, call me whatever you like, but just seeing your redundant arguments AGAINST a fighter you claim to like confuses me. I have never seen you acknowledge anything he does well...it's always just, "everyone who thinks Cotto could beat Tszyu or my boy Mayweather is a nuthugger and knows nothing about boxing...anyone who thinks Cotto has beaten good opposition this far through 23 fights is wrong." You seem to be quite alone in your debates about Cotto. I have never said that Cotto is the greatest in the world or that he is unbeatable or any of that. I have only said that based on what I have seen of him, he certainly has a great shot at having a great career and beating the top guys at 140 on up in the near future.
            This is because you have only read my recent post. You have to look at the context of the conversation. Thats what makes me different then others, because Im so real. What I mean by this is, the context of what we have been talking about is his opposition and where he should currently be ranked. I too think Cotto is a great young fighter and can be something special. Here's something I bet you didnt know- I also right now would pick Cotto to beat everyone in the division besides Floyd and Zoo and 50/50 with Harris. Shocking isnt it. My point is he hasnt done enough yet to be ranked over Harris.

            If you have read all my post then you would know that I have questioned this whole division. Everyone say's its the best and I also do but no one ever fights eachother. I think none of them have fought anyone who is a elite fighter. N'Dou, I used to always say that we dont know how good he is. Is he a good tough fighter like he looks or is he a guy who people are overating because he had a good showing against a disappointed overated Mitchell.

            I dont discount fighters because of losses thats why Im one of the few who stick up for Chop but you said that if Cotto loss you would still think that he can beat everyone in the division. Now that is taking things way to far. Theres more I have to say but I dont even really feel like talking about this **** anymore
            Last edited by DLT; 01-13-2005, 01:21 AM.

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            • Floydmayweather
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              #56
              Cotto will make Ko Chop Chop in 7 or less mark my words.

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              • IwatchBoxing
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                #57
                DTL reminds me of a Trinidad hater

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                • DLT
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Floydmayweather
                  Cotto will make Ko Chop Chop in 7 or less mark my words.
                  No way. Why is everybody so down on Chop. How many in the division wouldve beaten Judah and Mayweather. Chop is a beast that many are sleeping on. This will not be a easy fight for Cotto and could be an upset or should I say win because I wouldnt call it a upset

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                  • DLT
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                    DTL reminds me of a Trinidad hater
                    Your right. He's only one of my favorite fighters. What do you think I hate Puerto Ricans or something just because I say that Cotto hasnt beaten a great fighter yet. Man please

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                    • borikua
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                      DTL reminds me of a Trinidad hater
                      Nahh...DLT is a cool guy..actually a agree with him that Cotto shouldn't be rank above Zoo or Floyd, but if he beats (specially if he ktfo) Chop-Chop he should be rank above Floyd cuz Floyd has only fight one fight at 140...and I believe that a win over Bruseles doesn't mean ****...

                      btw I have never seen DLT talk **** bout Tito...

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