I believe they should ban BB Supplements from Boxing!

[CubanGuyNYC]

Very true indeed! Even when these steroids/pro-hormone traces are found which is likely to be extremely rare, they are often legal at the time.

Like they would deliberately put pro-hormones in there on purpose, it would ruin their profits and they could just put them on the shelves separately for say $60 a bottle.
Trace amounts aren't going to give anybody even the tiniest of gains.

Bingo, exactly and absolutely.

[hectari]

***** **** from protein hahaha!

More like they got ***** **** from anabolic steroids with zero clue about PCT/serms and don't want to admit they was juicing so are playing it innocent and blaming protein.

They were taking a protein blend or some type of post or preworkout mixture on the market.

regular whey is not going to give you that crap lol, but these stuff with additives could.

you said contaminated meat right? well if you eat contaminated meat it could give you stray hairs like on your ears, back, *******, etc, and could cause gyno from the hormones. You notice how so many women today have super curvy bodies big boobs and big butts compared to decades ago? It's probably from hormone stuff they add in the foods especially in milks and meats and cosmetics and shampoos, and stuff causing this.

[dan_cov]

I've been deployed with a guy that did this. However I don't think he really knew what he was taking and the effects that it would cause if he didn't have PCT.

But Protein causing gyno/b*tch ****? Never seen that or heard of it.

I think it mainly comes down to people buying pro-hormones thinking they're supplements and perfectly safe because they're sold over the counter, they fail to realise they are infact synthetic designer steroids and will be taken off the shelf sooner or later. These pro-hormones have zero backing or research, nobody knows the long term effects.

I have heard/read that if you consume a lot of Soy protein it can lead to gyno but I think that is what they call 'bro-science'.

[RedDevil5]

Does anybody know what supplements andre berto was taking?

[hectari]

Beat me to it, Redd. The good stuff costs money. Apart from potential legal issues (which is a whole other story), no one can afford to put appreciable amounts of steroids or other PEDs in a $60 bottle. It just doesn't make sense.

The good stuff cost money but not the CHEAP stuff, they have all types of PEDS man. Injectables cost a grip, but they have powder, pill forms that they can develop for cheap and distribute. many of the materiel and stuff used in supplements are bought for cheap in bulk from manufacturers overseas, if they sell 1 million bottles for 40 bucks that is a 40 million dollar revenue, that is more than a steroid pusher would make and it is worth lacing your supps you get a bigger return investment.

[WESS]

I think it mainly comes down to people buying pro-hormones thinking they're supplements and perfectly safe because they're sold over the counter, they fail to realise they are infact synthetic designer steroids and will be taken off the shelf sooner or later. These pro-hormones have zero backing or research, nobody knows the long term effects.

I have heard/read that if you consume a lot of Soy protein it can lead to gyno but I think that is what they call 'bro-science'.

That's what I've been saying. People just don't pay any attention to what they are actually taking.

Bro-science for sure lol

[dan_cov]

Does anybody know what supplements andre berto was taking?

No idea of what supplement he claims to of been using and put down to but he tested positive for Deca/Nandrolone which I believe is detectable in your system for upto 18 months!

[RedDevil5]

Some of you guys don't realize that Creatine was banned I think for a while or maybe its still banned from NCAA?

Also gatorade was banned for a while, just to be safe they should show the supplements the fighters are taking to the commissions.

The commission should test a sample from each so the fighter has a true reason that is legit if he gets caught.

As far as the meat, I never knew meat you eat can make you test positive, that meat must be injected with a lots of roids I guess, I always thought the hormones in food just make you grow thicker body hair and stray hairs. I for some reason do not buy into Morales claim he ate contaminated meat or that Spanish cyclist, I do believe Andre Berto when he took some tainted supplements, because its been proven that many of these supplements are tainted and contain actually peds.

before the World Cup the german football federation told players to stay away from the meat.

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/7115036/clenbuterol-found-most-players-17-world-cup

Most 16's olds tested positive for clenbuterol the same drug founf in erik morales.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/18/fifa-clenbuterol-contaminated-meat

[RedDevil5]

No idea of what supplement he claims to of been using and put down to but he tested positive for Deca/Nandrolone which I believe is detectable in your system for upto 18 months!

thats really dodgey to not name the supplemet that made him test positive.

[hectari]

I think it mainly comes down to people buying pro-hormones thinking they're supplements and perfectly safe because they're sold over the counter, they fail to realise they are infact synthetic designer steroids and will be taken off the shelf sooner or later. These pro-hormones have zero backing or research, nobody knows the long term effects.

I have heard/read that if you consume a lot of Soy protein it can lead to gyno but I think that is what they call 'bro-science'.

Thats what I heard too about Soy, the reasoning behind that is the estrogen it produces or something.