Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 because he was shook by the 147 division heating up?

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  • The Hammer
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    #91
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    1998? I don't know why I thought you were serious.
    Why is it okay in your mind for JMM to move up from 135 to fight Floyd at 147, of Hatton to move up from 140 to fight Floyd at 147, yet at the same rime it's unthinkable in your mind for Floyd in 1998-2002 to move up from 130 to 140 and fight Tszyu, or from 2002-03 to move up from 135 to 140 and fight Tszyu?

    Or to fight Tszyu in late 2004 or early 2005 when they both fought at 140?

    Who was the biggest threat to beat Floyd: Bruseles, Corley, Gatti, Tszyu?

    Which one of those four light welterweights did he avoid?

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    • -Kev-
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      #92
      Cowardloyd Shookfeathers ain't ****, he should have fought Winky Wright in 2005 *giggles*.

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      • The Hammer
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        #93
        Floyd preferred to fight past-prime opponents.

        He avoided Mosley in 2007-2008 when he was still good, but fought him when he was sure he was faded.

        He avoided prime Cotto in 2007-2009 but fought him when he was faded.

        He avoided De La Hoya when he was prime (although he didn't mind beating up old shot fighters like Genaro Hernandez that Oscar had already beaten when they were closer to their best) but fought Oscar in 2007 after he was sure Oscar was faded.

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        • -EX-
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          #94
          I didn't think so at the time but it seems pretty convenient for him that he ended up not fighting Margarito or Williams and waited til Cotto was pretty much through to fight him...

          I can deal with that (and most people probably can) but not fighting Pacquiao will forever stain his legacy...

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          • techliam
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            #95
            Its always interesting to note that the people who disagree with this are usually the ones with Mayweather all over their profile. Seems obvious, but it happens every single time. I wonder if they realise it's not the best indicator of credibility.

            As for main thread question, it seems awfully su****ious. The fact he evaded Pacquiao like the plague only further adds to it.

            Also for note, the argument that Cotto, Tony etc would not have made his "ATG status" better, is evading the question. You're effectively saying he did evade those fights because of high risk, low reward.

            Not sure why its so hard for people to swallow their pride on an internet forum.

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            • daggum
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              #96
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Cowardloyd Shookfeathers ain't ****, he should have fought Winky Wright in 2005 *giggles*.
              floyd pretended that he wanted the winky fight but then changed his demands. what else is new? i'm sure it was winky's fault though for not agreeing to them right? all winky had to do was agree to the craziest demands ever proposed. o he didn't? ducker! just like cotto, marg, and pac! duckers all of them! floyd takes on all challengers baldomirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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              • UTEP
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                #97
                Originally posted by A-Wolf
                @ this poll.

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                • AztecWanker
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Could have also fought the Mosley-De La Hoya winner in 2000.

                  Roid Chickenfeather knew his steroids wouldn't be enough to go up 17lbs to fight Mosley.
                  Now you're making sense, bro.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by techliam
                    Also for note, the argument that Cotto, Tony etc would not have made his "ATG status" better, is evading the question. You're effectively saying he did evade those fights because of high risk, low reward.

                    Not sure why its so hard for people to swallow their pride on an internet forum.
                    Yeah I did say that but I also said this on the first page:

                    Originally posted by PBP
                    I defend a lot of things related to Floyd Mayweather but this was inexcusable.

                    He took the paydays from the De La Hoya and Hatton fights and ran off into the sunset.
                    So I don't know exactly where your trying to go with that.

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                    • -Hyperion-
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      And Mosley was even better in 2005. Floyd called that version out on, even better: HBO.



                      Floyd did consider moving up a weight division, he went up to 154 to fight WBC champion and #3 ranked Oscar De La Hoya, before "Making" Hatton move up to 147 the same year. Nobody wanted to fight Forrest at 154, so why should Floyd have?
                      what??? after losing to Winky, Shane appeared to be done.....it wasnt until he KOed Vargas and then easily beat Collazo that people took him seriously again....the guy was struggling with bums in ESPN in 2005.....


                      Self ownage at its best.....the only time Shane didnt want to fight Floyd was when Oscar wanted him first and was Shane's boss

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