Did Vitali Klitschko "dominate" Lennox Lewis?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #221
    Originally posted by Someone88
    I can't think from the top of my head. Show me a list and I'll fit Vitali in somewhere.
    Try google. Come back with that.

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      #222
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      If your argument for Vitali Klitschko forces you to ask what the definition of a tomato can is then I suggest you let this go.
      Dude, is that the best you got?

      If you say Vitali only fought cans and other HW greats were not or if you say Vitali fought more cans than other great HWs then I need to know what you mean with 'tomato can'. Isn't that reasonable?

      Argument for Vitali can consist of many things but you can always say he fought 'tomato cans' so that's why I am asking.

      You want to talk about accomplishments - well they are pretty numerical and factual - so I need a common ground here.

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        #223
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Try google. Come back with that.
        Ok I saw a few lists. It seems harder now that I saw the list. Maybe ahead of Baer, Walcott, Charles. I'm more sure of Vitali being in the top 25.

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          #224
          Originally posted by Simurgh
          Dude, is that the best you got?

          If you say Vitali only fought cans and other HW greats were not or if you say Vitali fought more cans than other great HWs then I need to know what you mean with 'tomato can'. Isn't that reasonable?

          Argument for Vitali can consist of many things but you can always say he fought 'tomato cans' so that's why I am asking.

          You want to talk about accomplishments - well they are pretty numerical and factual - so I need a common ground here.
          I'm still waiting for you to tell me who Vitali beat. Then we can start comparing the quality of those wins to other opponents.

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            #225
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            I'm still waiting for you to tell me who Vitali beat. Then we can start comparing the quality of those wins to other opponents.
            Vitali has 15 wins in championship fights. Out of those 15, 14 have less than 25% losses in their careers.

            Is this satisfactory?

            Full list you can find on wikipedia, so I don't know what you really ask
            Last edited by Simurgh; 01-18-2013, 07:19 AM.

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              #226
              Originally posted by Someone88
              Ok I saw a few lists. It seems harder now that I saw the list. Maybe ahead of Baer, Walcott, Charles. I'm more sure of Vitali being in the top 25.
              Vitali is easily better than all three of them. They can't even compete. They have more losses, far fewer championship fights and they fought overall weaker opposition.

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                #227
                Originally posted by Simurgh
                Vitali has 15 wins in championship fights. Out of those 15, 14 have less than 25% losses in their careers.

                Is this satisfactory?

                Full list you can find on wikipedia, so I don't know what you really ask
                Who did he beat again?

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Simurgh
                  Vitali is easily better than all three of them. They can't even compete. They have more losses, far fewer championship fights and they fought overall weaker opposition.
                  In ability I think Vitali is one of the best heavyweights in Boxing history. I'm not as sure with accomplishments, but you make good points so he could be in the top 20.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Who did he beat again?
                    There you go

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Someone88
                      In ability I think Vitali is one of the best heavyweights in Boxing history. I'm not as sure with accomplishments, but you make good points so he could be in the top 20.
                      If you numerically (without 'imagination' lol) examine his accomplishment, solely on that bases he can easily be put in top15.

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