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  • #31
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    The way people talk about Floyd's shoulder roll, you would think Floyd is a bum without it. Like if he would lose fights if he didn't use it. I think that is the main problem with trainers and fighters who are facing Floyd. They think, okay once I get past that shoulder roll, i'm going to hit cleanly all night and i'm going to win. Then they get in the ring and are completely wrong and see Floyd's defense consists of much more than just shoulder rolling his way to victory.
    Why don't you tell us exactly what it is. All the other things he does, that his opponents never seem to find out about....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by edgarg View Post
      Why don't you tell us exactly what it is. All the other things he does, that his opponents never seem to find out about....
      How strong he is for starters. How strong he is on the inside specifically. And yeah his defense is more than just shoulder rolling. Hes the best defensive fighter in boxing.

      He can make you miss with the shoulder roll.
      He can make you look ****** with a high guard.
      He can make you miss on the inside thisclose to you.
      He can make you miss going backwards.
      He can make you miss coming forward.
      He can make you miss on the ropes.


      All while landing perfectly timed punches to his opponents grill.

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      • #33
        The Duran you saw in the first Leonard fight was still very close to the "Lightweight Champion" Duran! I've said many times that Duran then could fight any welter and do well because he still had a hunger in him.
        He gave Leonard no options that night he was quick with his steps and quicker with his hands. He had momentum and Ray had no answers for him. To me Duran made Leonard a better fighter after that because Leonard got educated by a master fighter/boxer and he took advantage of that experience all through his career!
        Duran had his moments in the coming years but I never saw that look in his eyes anymore! His talent and experience carried him a long ways after that bout but it was different to me and many others.

        The Duran who fought Leonard that night would give Mayweather a look that only Duran could give and I think he's be to much for Floyd. At 135lbs Floyd gets stopped!!! Ray.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
          The Duran you saw in the first Leonard fight was still very close to the "Lightweight Champion" Duran! I've said many times that Duran then could fight any welter and do well because he still had a hunger in him.
          He gave Leonard no options that night he was quick with his steps and quicker with his hands. He had momentum and Ray had no answers for him. To me Duran made Leonard a better fighter after that because Leonard got educated by a master fighter/boxer and he took advantage of that experience all through his career!
          Duran had his moments in the coming years but I never saw that look in his eyes anymore! His talent and experience carried him a long ways after that bout but it was different to me and many others.

          The Duran who fought Leonard that night would give Mayweather a look that only Duran could give and I think he's be to much for Floyd. At 135lbs Floyd gets stopped!!! Ray.
          True, but the low IQ Floydie will still disagree

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          • #35
            Duran burrows his c*ck into Floyd's prostate regardless of what weight the fight takes place at.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Burner © View Post
              How strong he is for starters. How strong he is on the inside specifically. And yeah his defense is more than just shoulder rolling. Hes the best defensive fighter in boxing.

              He can make you miss with the shoulder roll.
              He can make you look ****** with a high guard.
              He can make you miss on the inside thisclose to you.
              He can make you miss going backwards.
              He can make you miss coming forward.
              He can make you miss on the ropes.


              All while landing perfectly timed punches to his opponents grill.
              only against slow washed up past prime fighter or LWs that move up two weight classes. Also against one punch at a time fighters.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                You forgot to add that Duran wasn't even thinking of making a rematch that soon he was partying away weighing 190 when his manager signed the fight without Roberto's Knowledge forcing him to cut a lot of weight. Leonard people were aware of Durans partying how he bloated up in weight after fights
                so I can assume you agree Manny's KO of Hatton is equally worthless.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                  so I can assume you agree Manny's KO of Hatton is equally worthless.
                  why would you think that?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by texasboi15 View Post
                    Do you think Mayweather could have maintained his shoulder roll defense against the onslaught of Duran?
                    See, its more than just the shoulder roll. Floyd was very good maintaining the right distance in his prime. Look what Surgar Ray did in the second fight. No way a prime Duran beats a prime Floyd.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
                      why would you think that?
                      The ridiculous amount of money I have put up my nose over the years...what else?

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