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  • #81
    Originally posted by No Tomorrow View Post
    If that's how you feel towards Haye (OP) then what does that say of Wlad when Haye is arguably his best win?
    The klit bandwagon do not understand the double standards.

    In a thread about Klitschko's best wins, they'll call Haye a great CW and a very dangerous heavyweight who was the best other than the klitschkos.

    In a thread about Haye, they call him a fraud and a bum who didn't beat anyone and talked himself to a klitschko fight.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by No Tomorrow View Post
      If that's how you feel towards Haye (OP) then what does that say of Wlad when Haye is arguably his best win?
      I've never considered Haye a top five win for Wladimir.

      Byrd, McCline, Ibragimov, Chagaev, Peter 2005, Thompson 2008 and Povetkin were better wins than Haye.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Freedom2014 View Post
        I've never considered Haye a top five win for Wladimir.

        Byrd, McCline, Ibragimov, Chagaev, Peter 2005, Thompson 2008 and Povetkin were better wins than Haye.
        I agree. there heavyweight resumes crap on hayes

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Freedom2014 View Post
          I've never considered Haye a top five win for Wladimir.

          Byrd, McCline, Ibragimov, Chagaev, Peter 2005, Thompson 2008 and Povetkin were better wins than Haye.
          Out of all of those the only win I would rate higher would be Byrd.

          Of all the fighters you mentioned not one has a better win than Valuev (I really don't rate Valuev as a good fighter) Chagaev is the only one. Certainly not Ibragimov who won the title against Briggs, beat Holyfield and then lost the title. In fact I would rate Hayes (pretty poor) Heavyweight resume better than all the fighters you mentioned apart from Byrd.

          I believe it goes Byrd, Haye, Povetkin, Brewster (Brewsters reign and resume is much better than Ibragimov) and Chagaev

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
            Out of all of those the only win I would rate higher would be Byrd.

            Of all the fighters you mentioned not one has a better win than Valuev (I really don't rate Valuev as a good fighter) Chagaev is the only one. Certainly not Ibragimov who won the title against Briggs, beat Holyfield and then lost the title. In fact I would rate Hayes (pretty poor) Heavyweight resume better than all the fighters you mentioned apart from Byrd.

            I believe it goes Byrd, Haye, Povetkin, Brewster (Brewsters reign and resume is much better than Ibragimov) and Chagaev
            Ray Austin, Calvin Brock, Samuel Peters and Lamon Brewster are all bigger wins than beating David Haye.

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            • #86
              His biggest win was against Valuev, but that was not a great performance at all. He avg. like 12 punches per round and the fight was dreadful.

              I would say his win over Mormeck was his best because Mormeck was the WBC and Ring Champion and he finished Mormeck in Mormeck's backyard. So that's a big deal.
              Last edited by Cuban Linx; 05-02-2014, 06:08 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Freedom2014
                Ruslan Chagaev beat Valuev by a clear margin. Haye was given a gift decision over the giant.

                A past-prime Tony Thompson beat Odlanier Solis, a fighter David Haye was stopped by.

                None of the boxers I mentioned had a loss to an age 40 former light-heavyweight like Carl Thompson.
                I mentioned Chagaev in the comment... you are just repeating what I said

                And if you think that was a gift decision then you have no business scoring fights, Valuev landed nothing. Haye didn't set the world on fire but he certainly beat the bumbling idiot.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
                  I mentioned Chagaev in the comment... you are just repeating what I said

                  And if you think that was a gift decision then you have no business scoring fights, Valuev landed nothing. Haye didn't set the world on fire but he certainly beat the bumbling idiot.
                  valuev was a terrible fighter tho whom was awarded several gift decisions. an old shot holyfield,,,larry donald and ruiz 1 all should have got the win. I think an old ruiz was a better win for haye than valuev. I just dont rate valuev at all

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Freedom2014
                    Ruslan Chagaev beat Valuev by a clear margin. Haye was given a gift decision over the giant.

                    A past-prime Tony Thompson beat Odlanier Solis, a fighter David Haye was stopped by.

                    And none of the boxers I rate higher than Haye had a loss to an age 40 former light-heavyweight like Carl Thompson.
                    Again you literally just repeated what I said the first time.

                    Are we including amateur records now? In that case Vitali is a steroid cheat but no one is dense enough to bring up the amateurs because that's ridiculous if that's the argument you use.

                    Again, start of Hayes career no? Surely as a fan of Wlad you can tell sometimes at that point in their career its step too far and they aren't the finished product. I don't hold Wlads losses to Purrity, Brewster and Sanders against him because he is a different fighter now. Anyone with a logical brain can see Haye is better and smarter when he moved up than he was then.

                    I don't really see where you argument lies? I'm trying to say that Wlads resume to me looks much better with Haye on it than most of the guys you mentioned. Somehow you've taken an argument and used Hayes amateur and early career to diminish what he achieved year later. Like holding Hopkins first loss against him it doesn't make sense.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Freedom2014
                      Ruslan Chagaev beat Valuev by a clear margin. Haye was given a gift decision over the giant.

                      A past-prime Tony Thompson beat Odlanier Solis, a fighter David Haye was stopped by.

                      And none of the boxers I rate higher than Haye had a loss to an age 40 former light-heavyweight like Carl Thompson.
                      I thought haye actually eked out that fight with valuev but chageav did clearly do it more impressively than haye

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