Cotto, Castillo, Corrales: Who has the better resume/wins???

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  • El Angel
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    #71
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    No. But he was a couple years removed from having much left, that's a fact.

    Tell me how are Cotto's wins better than Castillo's or Corrales' for that matter???

    Cotto is a good fighter of this era, but his best wins are Mosley, Judah, and Clottey, two of which he arguably lost. But yeah, Cotto has some good losses.
    Are you asking the best wins or resume? Those are two different things and require two seperate answers, depending on the choices. Losses count against you when grading resume IMO, while as wins are strictly that.

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    • 4Corners
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      #72
      Originally posted by El Angel
      Are you asking the best wins or resume? Those are two different things and require two seperate answers, depending on the choices. Losses count against you when grading resume IMO, while as wins are strictly that.
      Losses don't count against you...or for you. It seems in terms of Cotto, losses count for him in some strange way......

      Your resume is your wins. The only way a loss can impact your resume is a case like Lewis losing to McCall or Wlad losing to Brewster/Sanders. When you lose in your prime to someone clearly levels below you. Douglas beating Tyson.

      Not Castillo losing when he was way past his best and when you can't even give credit to the guy who did beat him.

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      • El Angel
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        #73
        Originally posted by 4Corners
        Losses don't count against you...or for you. It seems in terms of Cotto, losses count for him in some strange way......

        Your resume is your wins. The only way a loss can impact your resume is a case like Lewis losing to McCall or Wlad losing to Brewster/Sanders. When you lose in your prime to someone clearly levels below you. Douglas beating Tyson.

        Not Castillo losing when he was way past his best and when you can't even give credit to the guy who did beat him.
        Javier Jaregui beating him twice? Or was that too early in his career?

        Also when I have ever said Cotto deserves credit for losses? Same as Castillo should get none for his.

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        • 4Corners
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          #74
          Originally posted by El Angel
          Javier Jaregui beating him twice? Or was that too early in his career?

          Also when I have ever said Cotto deserves credit for losses? Same as Castillo should get none for his.
          Well let's go look at other Mexican greats, they all lost fights on their way up before they were in their primes and fighting every few months in Mexico.

          Cotto seems to get credit for having wars that he lost, not saying you, just in general.

          Cotto's wins are not better than Castillo and Corrales, not by any means.

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            #75
            Castillo>Corrales>Cotto

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            • El Angel
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              #76
              Originally posted by 4Corners
              Well let's go look at other Mexican greats, they all lost fights on their way up before they were in their primes and fighting every few months in Mexico.

              Cotto seems to get credit for having wars that he lost, not saying you, just in general.

              Cotto's wins are not better than Castillo and Corrales, not by any means.
              Lazcano and Diaz are good, not great wins. Casamayor and Johnston are very good wins.

              Cotto's win over Mosley is just as good as Casamayor and Johnston, Clottey just as good as Lazcano and Diaz. Quintana gets no mention for Cotto, undefeated and off giving Joel Julio a boxing lesson? Malinaggi is also an underrated win, he did some good things in the sport and Cotto hung his first L on him too.

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                #77
                Originally posted by El Angel
                Lazcano and Diaz are good, not great wins. Casamayor and Johnston are very good wins.

                Cotto's win over Mosley is just as good as Casamayor and Johnston, Clottey just as good as Lazcano and Diaz. Quintana gets no mention for Cotto, undefeated and off giving Joel Julio a boxing lesson? Malinaggi is also an underrated win, he did some good things in the sport and Cotto hung his first L on him too.
                JCL is regarded as the BEST LW Since Whitaker

                what's cotto recognized for? most of the titles he won were Vacant....

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                • El Angel
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by slickest G
                  JCL is regarded as the BEST LW Since Whitaker

                  what's cotto recognized for? most of the titles he won were Vacant....
                  Counter my arguement then and prove me wrong. In this watered down age of titles, they don't mean as much as they used to. Tell my why Castillo's resume is better than Cotto's.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by El Angel
                    Lazcano and Diaz are good, not great wins. Casamayor and Johnston are very good wins.

                    Cotto's win over Mosley is just as good as Casamayor and Johnston, Clottey just as good as Lazcano and Diaz. Quintana gets no mention for Cotto, undefeated and off giving Joel Julio a boxing lesson? Malinaggi is also an underrated win, he did some good things in the sport and Cotto hung his first L on him too.
                    Cotto's best wins are Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Quintana, Malignaggi, etc.

                    Castillo's best are Corrales, Johnston, Lazcano, Casamayor, etc.

                    Cotto arguably lost to Clottey and Mosley as well. The only thing Cotto has that tops anything on Castillo is Mosley, and he arguably lost. Castillo's list of wins are deeper.

                    Let's not act like Quintana is some world beater, it's a nice decent win for Cotto.

                    Again, I'm not saying you obviously, but it's funny seeing people go to certain lengths to justify one guys resume with certain wins, but if you bring up similar level wins on say Floyd's resume.....people use those fights to downplay his resume. It's just funny.

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #80
                      If you even begin to take into account that Castillo arguably has a W over Floyd, while Cotto lost 9-3 to Floyd, it wouldn't even be an argument.

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