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  • LeG00N
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    #11
    apparently hype = better fights

    Vazquez Marquez, Ward - Gatti > Ali Frazier even with no hype.

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    • happyman
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      #12
      Ali-Frazier is definitely overrated by the old folk who are biased anyway

      Marquez-Pac is definitely superior.

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      • 4Corners
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        #13
        You got to love the people who don't think Ali-Frazier were amazing fights as well.......

        If you combined all terms of a great boxing rivalry....the hype of the fights, the actual fighting, the legacy they leave behind, it has to be Ali-Frazier.

        Ali-Frazier
        Pacquiao-Marquez
        Barrera-Morales
        Ward-Gatti
        Bowe-Holyfield

        Those are my 5 favorites.

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        • slickest G
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          #14
          Originally posted by 4Corners
          ......Not sure if you're being serious or not......

          The fights lived up to it, the 2nd is the forgotten fight because Ali controlled much of the fight and the other two were amazing. Much like the third Pac-JMM fight will be the forgotten one eventually.

          Ali's charismatic personality also added to the rivalry.

          As much hype as Pacquiao-Marquez has, it still couldn't compare to the levels of Ali-Frazier I and III.
          i didn't appreciate his racism and the way he degraded smoking joe

          and pure entertainment stand point pac and marquez rivalry is better

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          • LeG00N
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            #15
            Originally posted by happyman
            Ali-Frazier is definitely overrated by the old folk who are biased anyway

            Marquez-Pac is definitely superior.
            The first fight was good, the left hook Frazier landed is one of the most iconic ever. The Thrilla In Manilla was pretty good even with Frazier'scorner quitting and Ali wanting to quit but any figh in the Morales - Barrera trilogy is better

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            • LeG00N
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              #16
              If Valero was still alive the trilogy he would've of given us against Pacquiao would be up there with the best.

              He would've smoked Soto and Marquez would've stopped him in 10 so there would be no need for a rematch. Maybe if Marquez was a tad bit less skilled there would be an epic rivalry

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              • 4Corners
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                #17
                I don't see Valero beating Manny at all, there'd be some great exchanges but he's not beating Manny H2H. Valero is probably one of the more overrated guys on here, since the best win he has on there was DeMarco. He had great potential but it's one of those "we'll never know" because he was bat s**t crazy.

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                • Rip Chudd
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MANIAC310
                  by far......

                  The rivalry is surreal, the talented but less athletic, less known fighter against the stronger,faster more famous ATG.Yet the lesser known fighter doesn't concede defeat or accept the odds that are stacked against him despite getting robbed and dropped 5 times. Just to comeback at the very end of the rivalry to viciously knock out his arch nemesis which no one thought he could do. It's some Cinderella shit

                  I'd say

                  Barrera Morales comes second with Gatti Ward 3rd.

                  Honorable mentions go to
                  Vazquez - Marquez
                  Chacon - Olivares
                  Ali - Frazier (overrated IMO)
                  Bowe - Holyfield
                  Gonzalez - Carbajal
                  Duran - Dejesus


                  the history romanticizers will disagree and say some sorry ass rivalry like

                  Langford - Wills because they fought over 20 times,or
                  Nelson vs Gans

                  are the best
                  I thought the thread was gonna be about this rivalry. First one that came to mind when I saw the title.

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                  • RichCCFC
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                    #19
                    Ali vs Frazier 3 best fight I've ever seen.

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                    • LeG00N
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
                      I don't see Valero beating Manny at all, there'd be some great exchanges but he's not beating Manny H2H. Valero is probably one of the more overrated guys on here, since the best win he has on there was DeMarco. He had great potential but it's one of those "we'll never know" because he was bat s**t crazy.
                      He KO's Broner, decisions Floyd and goes life and death with Manny Pacquiao

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