Originally posted by boliodogs
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How come ppl say Marciano isn't the greatest of all time?
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Originally posted by Luilun View PostActually he was 5'11 or 5 '10 about the size of Mike Tyson in height but weighed 185 pounds which would have made him a light heavy to day because I'm sure with the 2 day weigh in they have today compared with the same day weigh in they had back than he would have sucked down to 175 today
He was a decent boxer, although he would get destroyed by many of the powerful HW's we've seen in the lat 30 years or so...
Tyson was a freak of nature, he was a little taller than Rocky. Tyson had devastating power, more so than Rocky M, and also the fact Tyson would duck very low, almost crouching and hit punches from weird angles, with electrifying speed, while moving his head left and right..Rocky M didnt do anything like that, he fought in straight lines, he would have been very easy to hit by one of these big HW's.
Its hard to compare Tyson to anyone, he was a one off, just so damn athletic, fast and powerful and a great technique when he was in his prime. Although even he had his moments against taller guys.
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Originally posted by killamoneymike View PostK then who is? in hw that is?
Louis (who he beat) ?, Ali who lost 5 times more than Marciano did? Dont give me **** about how old Ali was for a lot of those losses, the man didnt know when to quit. Marciano was the smarter fighter he knew when to quit.
You cant prove anything about era's thats going on pure trivial opinion. Whos to say Rocky's comp was weaker? You dont know that.
Rocky hit hard enough to KO any of these giants today.
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Originally posted by killamoneymike View Postshoulda, woulda, coulda.
at the end of the day hes the only hw champion to retire undefeated. On paper, hes the best.
Marciano not as great as Joe Louis or Ali. Strength of competition is mainly the reason. As a matter of fact, if you wanna simply concentrate on "whiteness", its a very simple fact in boxing that Jack Dempsey was the greatest white HW that ever lived. I put him number three behind Louis and Ali. Rocky in top 10.
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Originally posted by killamoneymike View Posthow you gonna quote denzel washington? lol
and that doesn't mean it just doesn't count prime joe louis or not i'd say KO'ing him has to still be an accolade.
Now when I met Martin Luther the King, back in 1975, I asked him, I said how old old is Joe Louis. he said, Joe Louis is 130 years old.
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostWhat was it 62-0? In there somewhere. That's darn great. But, retiring undefeated is not as indicative of greatness as you might think. The GOAT, Julio Cesar Chavez, won his first 87 fights in a row.
Marciano not as great as Joe Louis or Ali. Strength of competition is mainly the reason. As a matter of fact, if you wanna simply concentrate on "whiteness", its a very simple fact in boxing that Jack Dempsey was the greatest white HW that ever lived. I put him number three behind Louis and Ali. Rocky in top 10.
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