Originally posted by BrokenHat
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How come ppl say Marciano isn't the greatest of all time?
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Marciano was the greatest heavyweight during his era. He was very tough. The win over Louis though has to be looked at in context. Louis was an older fighter by that time.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postthe odd thing is, if you take a good look at the photos, he has the arm length of a short guy, not a guy who is nearly 6 feet tall. Particularly the ulnar length, is pretty short ( which is used in hospitals to estimate height in patients who cant stand up to be measured).
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostWhat was it 62-0? In there somewhere. That's darn great. But, retiring undefeated is not as indicative of greatness as you might think. The GOAT, Julio Cesar Chavez, won his first 87 fights in a row.
Marciano not as great as Joe Louis or Ali. Strength of competition is mainly the reason. As a matter of fact, if you wanna simply concentrate on "whiteness", its a very simple fact in boxing that Jack Dempsey was the greatest white HW that ever lived. I put him number three behind Louis and Ali. Rocky in top 10.
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People say Ali is the greatest because of who he fought, ( a who's who of great heavys in their primes) and also what he did/and stood for outside the ring. Rock a great too,but factor in what Ali did, and he probably gets the nod with most.
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louis wasn't just old, he was fighting purely for money too so his heart wasn't in it at all. that said he was hella old too, waaay past his prime.
but as great as he was in his prime he was still a fairly dangerous fighter and a decent win on marcianos resume. but as far as the two of them fighting in their respective primes you really can't take anything away from that fight, louis was a shell of his former self in every aspect.
in his prime he would knock marciano out, different class of fighters. which isnt saying marciano wasnt great, he was. but louis in his prime was a different animal even compared to other greats, only one above him is ali who is the greatest of them all. the recently crowned king of boxing and rightfully so, heavyweight boxing anyways.
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