Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
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HOF/ATG Poll: Pac ahead of Floyd for ATG
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostAh. I see. The ONLY win there that can't be picked apart is Corrales. Hatton, if you want to put any value in it - which I personally would give him credit for. That's it. Other than that you have some nice names there, but any real student of the game will tell you without needing to think very hard that these guys were past their best or of little value overall in final summation. There really isn't much there.
Barrera is the only win that really couldn't be picked apart, judging by "picking apart someone's resume" which you seem to do.
So Floyd doesn't get credit for anything but Corrales and Hatton??? Wow.....the trolling is getting ridiculous on here since December 8th.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostAh. I see. The ONLY win there that can't be picked apart is Corrales. Hatton, if you want to put any value in it - which I personally would give him credit for. That's it. Other than that you have some nice names there, but any real student of the game will tell you without needing to think very hard that these guys were past their best or of little value overall in final summation. There really isn't much there.
I'm not writing Floyd off, but he's got alot of problems that undefeated record can't make up for. This why the poll showing Pac ahead for ATG is so illuminating.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post4C, when were the times Floyd was in a match he had any chance of losing? Corrales? ..........
I mean we have to go to 160 lbs and find Martinez to find someone who we think Floyd could lose to. It's crazy...
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostTo be fair, Marquez was a good win. Oscar was a good win, even if ODH was a little long in the tooth. Cotto...another good win, even if he was a little shot by that time.
I'm not writing Floyd off, but he's got alot of problems that undefeated record can't make up for. This why the poll showing Pac ahead for ATG is so illuminating.
Pac is greater right now, but it's closer than most make it out to be, especially given a lot of his wins were when someone was coming off a bad loss recently, notably Erik Morales.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostWell than you could pick apart Marquez and Pac as well, you know that as well as anyone.
Barrera is the only win that really couldn't be picked apart, judging by "picking apart someone's resume" which you seem to do.
So Floyd doesn't get credit for anything but Corrales and Hatton??? Wow.....the trolling is getting ridiculous on here since December 8th.
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostTo be fair, Marquez was a good win. Oscar was a good win, even if ODH was a little long in the tooth. Cotto...another good win, even if he was a little shot by that time.
I'm not writing Floyd off, but he's got alot of problems that undefeated record can't make up for. This why the poll showing Pac ahead for ATG is so illuminating.
Not a discussion about decent wins.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostWell than you could pick apart Marquez and Pac as well, you know that as well as anyone.
Barrera is the only win that really couldn't be picked apart, judging by "picking apart someone's resume" which you seem to do.
So Floyd doesn't get credit for anything but Corrales and Hatton??? Wow.....the trolling is getting ridiculous on here since December 8th.
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostFrom the previous HOF/ATG poll, 2 things are clear: 1. Oscar DeLahoya no longer enjoys ATG status; 2. Pac has stronger ATG support than Floyd.
This seems to be a contradiction because Floyd has a better statistical record than Pac. How can this be explained? Has Floyd's reputation decreased like Oscar's?
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