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HOF/ATG Poll: Pac ahead of Floyd for ATG
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Originally posted by danceswithfire View Postthe poll was from march of 2008 ( if youre talking about the one made by freedom) ..this was when pac was at 130 , prior to moving to 135 and hoya at ww..pac lead that one 71% to floyd's 29%..ive never seen a poll in which floyd won in regards to who's greater..
since that time , pac has done hell of a lot more than floyd so i dont know why he should now be higher given he has'nt done much...
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Yes, Pacquiao outranks Mayweather. We know how ATGs are created.
You have to PROVE it. The hard way. Mayweather will be remembered as a significantly talented guy who never had the willingness nor the inclination to truly test himself. That will be his legacy.
Just look at Calzaghe at this point..
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Originally posted by WARQUEZ View PostFloyd has never defeated a top 50 all time great in his prime.
FACT.
Also, yes Marquez beating Pacquiao is greater than any single win Floyd has. But hey....Rid**** Bowe beating Evander Holyfield is greater than any single win Larry Holmes has, is Rid**** Bowe greater than Larry Holmes??? Hell no
Marquez' resume doesn't have the depth Manny and Floyd have.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostYes, Pacquiao outranks Mayweather. We know how ATGs are created.
You have to PROVE it. The hard way. Mayweather will be remembered as a significantly talented guy who never had the willingness nor the inclination to truly test himself. That will be his legacy.
Just look at Calzaghe at this point..
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostNeither has Pacquiao. I don't consider Barrera or Marquez quite Top 50, Marquez is close in my opinion though. Morales wasn't in his prime in 2006, past prime-still good. Still a good win for Manny.
Also, yes Marquez beating Pacquiao is greater than any single win Floyd has. But hey....Rid**** Bowe beating Evander Holyfield is greater than any single win Larry Holmes has, is Rid**** Bowe greater than Larry Holmes??? Hell no
Marquez' resume doesn't have the depth Manny and Floyd have.
FACT.
Is that better for you?
If you want to talk strictly resume then no Marquez is not better, in my heart he is because I consider him 3-0-1 against Pacquiao but that's in my heart not on paper.
The subject isn't Marquez though, the subject is Pacquiao over Floyd and there is no debate who the greater fighter is currently. Wins over Guerrero, Canelo, Berto, etc won't change that. Even a win over Martinez is highly debatable.
Pacquiao > Floyd
It's a tough pill to swallow for you I'm sure, but it's the truth.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostIt's not about unbeaten records. It's about fear of failure.
Floyd fought his first legit big fight when he was 21 against lineal champion Genaro Hernandez.
Floyd has a deep enough resume and anyone with his resume would be considered an ATG, especially with the dominance he's sustained over 14-15 years now. Floyd and Manny both have much deeper resume's than Marquez. I'm not taking anything away from Marquez, his resume isn't quite as good as Manny or Floyd.
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