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  • HeroBando
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    #171
    Originally posted by BennyST


    I hope he retires. Or, if he takes a 5th fight, it would be good to see him go for another title in his 4th division.

    He should already be a four division champ, if Arum and Bradley didn't rob Pac of his 147 title, but that's Arum for you.

    Just on that point, why do people keep calling Marquez a four division champ? He's not a four division world champ. An Interim Title is nothing. It just means you are in line for a title shot. It is not a world title.

    He's only the WBO Interim champ at 140. He is not a world champion. I can understand if you called him a 4 division world champ cause he just beat Manny, and we all know that Manny was still the 147 champ in reality, but officially Marquez is not a 4 division world champ.

    Anyway, I'd rather see him go for his 4th legit title rather than take another Pac fight if he's going to do one more. There is simply no need for a rematch. They've had 4 fights, and Marquez is the only one to have won clearly and this was the fight meant to prove it. He proved it. What's the point in another go? To give Manny a chance at redemption? He's already got two 'wins' over Marquez. If he got another one, what does it prove? Will they just have to fight again? What if it's close? It's just ******. No point at all.

    I'd like to see him beat Malignaggi, or someone at 140 for a last title then go out on top as the legend he is.
    He was promoted to full champ at 140. Go to wboboxing.com, check for yourself. In fact he's their super champ?! It's like Martinez' belt at 154, he got promoted but never defended the full belt.

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    • BTTAG145
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      #172
      JMM should go fleece Bradley of the WW belt and become a champ before calling it quits.

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      • turnedup
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        #173
        Originally posted by richardt
        A), Pac said he was afraid of needles. Thats a duck. BOTH Pac and Floyd were Prima Donna's in negotiations. B) JMM knocked Pac COLD and any of those 3 fights could have gone either way. C) JMM never ducked Morales, he chose more monetary viable options. Pac and Floyd are more feared than Morales and he fought both.
        The only ppl I ever see debate those fights as pacquaio wins outright are people who'll soon enough be in another thread dissing him. The third fight is the only truly debatable one..the other two i'm sorry to break this to you but they in no way shape or form are debatable...much like the 4th one was before the K.O. the fact is statistically going by any system on planet earth for boxing the numbers don't lie..on a point system fight 1,2 aren't even close. The third falls within margin's of error and truly is the only one that could've gone either way.

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        • Doc Holliday
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          #174
          Originally posted by richardt
          But I hold JMM in higher regard than Pac and Floyd for the simple reason that he fought BOTH Pac and Floyd when niether Pac nor Floyd would fight each other and BOTH those guys made excuses for not fighting each other. JMM can retire some day knowing he fought both guys when all they had were excuses for not fighting each other. That makes JMM pretty damn special because NO ONE can say he ever ducked a fighter. He fought BOTH.
          Sig worthy if condensed.

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          • straightleft
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            #175
            Marquez should give Pacquaio one more rematch. Pac gave him 3 rematches. Now is his time to give Pacquiao besides the amount of money he will earn in this fight.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Check_hooks
              I know when a fighter is shook and when he says he has to ask for his wife's permission to fight that means he shook
              hahaha Manny has to ask his mommy

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              • salitap4p#1
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                #177
                If he wants money then he can accept endorsements, train the next generation, go back to his commentary work.

                A fifth fight will be early 2014. And even then that's dependent on how Pac performs in his planned Sept 2013 comeback.

                When you're 40 and you've taken so many hard shots throughout your career it's not wise to keep on going unless money is that tight, which it isn't for Marquez.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by salitap4p#1
                  If he wants money then he can accept endorsements, train the next generation, go back to his commentary work.

                  A fifth fight will be early 2014. And even then that's dependent on how Pac performs in his planned Sept 2013 comeback.

                  When you're 40 and you've taken so many hard shots throughout your career it's not wise to keep on going unless money is that tight, which it isn't for Marquez.
                  That's peanuts, you might as well advise wall streeters to go work at walmart for reduced stress. And it'll always be there for him, but chances to double your career purse in one year don't come often, for any boxer

                  afaik there was no tuneup planned for pac, straight to the rematch

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                  • stretchedout
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by richardt
                    Apparently you didn't see the fight. JMM had a busted nose and a swollen face and was taking huge punishment. Any fighter could decide they don't want any more damage. Shook might not be the word but it is easy to see how JMM does not want any more of that. Pac is not good for anyone's health, his own included.
                    So what? Heaps of fighters have taken much more punishment and won.

                    Marquez has done it his whole career.

                    Look at the Diaz fight, or look at the first Pac fight. Manny knocked Marquez down 3 times and broke his nose and yet still couldnt beat him.

                    Pacquiao looked worse after beating Clottey.

                    That is truly a ******ed viewpoint considering that Marquez is renowned for his recuperation, endurance, and his ability to adapt.

                    A fight ebbs and flows..... Pac had 1.5 good rounds between getting knocked down and getting KTFO. Lets keep it real here.

                    There arent too many people who are scared of Pacquiao right now dude, and Marquez certainly aint one of them.

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                    • stretchedout
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks
                      Did you even read the article?

                      Marquez has to ask his wife for permission

                      Pac said he wanted a rematch straight up after the fight to Merchant.

                      Its pretty obvious Mrs. JMM wears the pants in that relationship
                      Straight after that fight..... Manny thought Merchant was his wife.

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