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  • taansend
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    #11
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    I remember when that duck parade was going on in 2008.

    Calzaghe was ducking Pavlik, and Pavlik was ducking Abraham. Pavlik then picked Hopkins, which at the time was seen as a cherrypick on Pavlik's part. Little did he know he could had an easier time with Pavlik than he did with Hopkins.

    Calzaghe ducked everybody though, Dawson, Johnson, Froch, Pavlik, Hopkins rematch. Everybody wanted him but he picked a shot Roy Jones.
    So you're not bitter or anything then

    An article about Pavlik fighting Abraham & you go into a rant about Calzaghe

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    • -Kev-
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      #12
      Originally posted by taansend
      So you're not bitter or anything then

      An article about Pavlik fighting Abraham & you go into a rant about Calzaghe
      I'm talking about the ducking that happened between several fighters at 160-175 in 2008 and YOU single out Calzaghe. It is a known a fact that Calzaghe turned down Dawson, Johnson, Froch, Pavlik and a rematch with Hopkins to face Jones.

      I do not care about Calzaghe, I don't either hate him or like him, I don't talk about him. Actually, I might go 1,000 posts before even mentioning Joe Calzaghe. There's nothing about Calzaghe or his wins that make me bitter.

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      • Ravens Fan
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        #13
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        I remember when that duck parade was going on in 2008.

        Calzaghe was ducking Pavlik, and Pavlik was ducking Abraham. Pavlik then picked Hopkins, which at the time was seen as a cherrypick on Pavlik's part. Little did he know he could had an easier time with Pavlik than he did with Hopkins.

        Calzaghe ducked everybody though, Dawson, Johnson, Froch, Pavlik, Hopkins rematch. Everybody wanted him but he picked a shot Roy Jones.
        I can tell that you are a huge fan of Calzaghe. I am also sitting here trying to figure out why anyone would duck Abraham?

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        • -Kev-
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          #14
          Originally posted by Ravens Fan
          I can tell that you are a huge fan of Calzaghe. I am also sitting here trying to figure out why anyone would duck Abraham?
          Abraham vs Pavlik was the best Middleweight fight that could happen in 2008. People forget sh-t easily around here, but fans were craving for that fight and Pavlik/Arum went the Hopkins route.

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            #15
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            I remember when that duck parade was going on in 2008.

            Calzaghe was ducking Pavlik, and Pavlik was ducking Abraham. Pavlik then picked Hopkins, which at the time was seen as a cherrypick on Pavlik's part. Little did he know he could had an easier time with Pavlik than he did with Hopkins.

            Calzaghe ducked everybody though, Dawson, Johnson, Froch, Pavlik, Hopkins rematch. Everybody wanted him but he picked a shot Roy Jones.
            Not necessarly so, we know styles make fights. Pavlik really did have trouble working out Hopkins defensive technique.

            Calzaghe did avoid a lot of fights but he also beat some very good (great even) fighters too and that shouldn't be overlooked.

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              #16
              Funny how things have moved on and that fights become kind of relevant again.

              Be interesting, I'd like to see Abraham win that.

              Read a Pavlik interview lately, he's on the booze and making excuses for his losses. Gone off him.

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                #17
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Abraham vs Pavlik was the best Middleweight fight that could happen in 2008. People forget sh-t easily around here, but fans were craving for that fight and Pavlik/Arum went the Hopkins route.
                Pavlik decided to fight one of the best 175 pound fighter instead of a European stiff. I have to admit that in hindsight you are right. Because it is now obvious that Pavlik made a horrible decision.

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                  #18
                  **** the Stigletz rematch, just fight Pavlik. It's a good fight for both men, they both have solid chances of winning, unlike Pavlik-Ward.

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                    Not necessarly so, we know styles make fights. Pavlik really did have trouble working out Hopkins defensive technique.

                    Calzaghe did avoid a lot of fights but he also beat some very good (great even) fighters too and that shouldn't be overlooked.
                    Pavlik wouldn't have an easier time with Abraham than Hopkins?


                    Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                    Pavlik decided to fight one of the best 175 pound fighter instead of a European stiff. I have to admit that in hindsight you are right. Because it is now obvious that Pavlik made a horrible decision.
                    What are you talking about, were you even around in October 2008 and before that? I guess not, you were not seeing the amount of fans and trainers asking for B-Hop to retire after the Calzaghe fights. Everyone was saying he's going to get killed.

                    Just cause Hopkins ended up taking Pavlik's soul, doesn't mean that coming in to the fight, Hopkins was some beast. Hopkins was underdog and actually the majority of the predictions were that Pavlik was going to UD or KO Hopkins.

                    By Rick Reeno - Later tonight at the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik (34-0 30KOs) will rise to the agreed upon catch-weight of 170-pounds to face veteran Bernard Hopkins (48-5-1 32KOs). At age 43, Hopkins is 17-years older than the champion. Pavlik wants to put the executioner into retirement, and Hopkins wants to tame the young lion.

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                    • Ray  Ray
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                      #20
                      This fight is long overdue...Me personally, I wouldnt mind watching given on where they are in their careers.

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