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  • Super_Lightweight
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    #11
    hmm

    If anybody could find a dodgy chin it was Nigel Benn.
    Too bad there was nothing to indicate Roy had a dodgy chin in his prime. Ruiz didn't hrtu him even hittin him clean so I doubt Benn would, much less find him.

    RJJ UD Benn

    And McClellan just gasses out and falls in love with his power too much to beat RJJ.

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    • supaduck
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      #12
      Nah, i'd favour Benn to beat RJJ. Probably a TKO in the 11th round.

      I'd also favour Mclellan against him. He beat him before, he could do it again. I reckon Mclellan's power would be too much..

      But hey, it's just my opinion.

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        #13
        hmm

        I'd also favour Mclellan against him. He beat him before, he could do it again. I reckon Mclellan's power would be too much..

        But hey, it's just my opinion.
        Benn would stand little chance against Roy. Eubank in his prime outclassed Benn a bit and Roy would do so further, being even harder to hit than Eubank. Two guys going to war in Benn-Gman has NO implications on what a fight with RJJ would look like.

        GMan has no gas to TKO Roy that late, and he only beat Roy in the ams in a really close fight. In the AMS, Roy threw more punches and brawled more...his style was different in the pros and one tat would outlast Gman. Roy is not Julian Jackson. Roy would never let it be a war.

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        • THE REAL NINJA
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          #14
          i'm just going to run down some of the list
          • Liston vs Holyfield Liston w
          • Tunny vs Johnson ...johnson ko 6
          • Holmes vs Walcott Holmes ko 11
          • Foreman vs Lewis... Lewis ko 10
          • Langford vs Bivins Langford ko 6
          • charles vs roy jones ..jones by split
          • moore vs M.spinks ..spinks w ud
          • conn vs foster ..conn UD
          • galindez vs Qawi ..Qawi tko 11
          • saad muhammad vs jose torres muhammad ko 9
          • greb vs hagler ..greb by split
          • ketchel vs graziano ..ketchel ko 7
          • tiger vs zale ..tyger ud
          • walker vs lamota ..walker by ud
          • hop vs monzon ..monzone ud
          • robinson vs leonard ..robinson ud
          • basilio vs hearns..hearns ko 7
          • gavilan vs trinidad...gavilan MD
          • pryor vs taylor ..pryor
          • tony canzoneri vs JCC ..canzo split
          • benitez vs tszyu ..tszyu ko 14
          • duran vs whitaker ..whitaker split

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            #15
            Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
            Benn would stand little chance against Roy. Eubank in his prime outclassed Benn a bit and Roy would do so further, being even harder to hit than Eubank. Two guys going to war in Benn-Gman has NO implications on what a fight with RJJ would look like.

            GMan has no gas to TKO Roy that late, and he only beat Roy in the ams in a really close fight. In the AMS, Roy threw more punches and brawled more...his style was different in the pros and one tat would outlast Gman. Roy is not Julian Jackson. Roy would never let it be a war.
            The Benn that fought Eubank in 1990 was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to the Benn that fought under Jimmy Tibbs. Benn, under Tibbs, was a counter-puncher who was always ducking and weaving under punches and never throwing wild punches.

            Gerald McClellan was a slow-paced boxer-puncher from 1990 to 1994, he was rarely on the front foot and out-jabbed his opponents before planting his feet. It's just that his sense of timing/distance was so insane that he was able to find the right punch to get them out of there very early on (mostly it was his trademark left hook to body).

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              #16
              Tibbs was Benn's trainer from Galvano 92 through to Giminez 94, Benn showed impressive boxing skills in all his fights under Tibbs.

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                #17
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                Benn would stand little chance against Roy. Eubank in his prime outclassed Benn a bit and Roy would do so further, being even harder to hit than Eubank. Two guys going to war in Benn-Gman has NO implications on what a fight with RJJ would look like.

                GMan has no gas to TKO Roy that late, and he only beat Roy in the ams in a really close fight. In the AMS, Roy threw more punches and brawled more...his style was different in the pros and one tat would outlast Gman. Roy is not Julian Jackson. Roy would never let it be a war.
                Please take note that all my posting is my opinion, and I don't claim that it is facts (then again, same with yours). I think in his prime Benn was better than Eubanks. He probably would beat him if they both went in at their peak condition. I can imagine Benn beating RJJ by knockout, although It may be around 60/40, cos Roy would as you said be hard to hit.

                I think G-man would probably defeat Roy by knockout regardless, he hits harder and I expect he would find a way in. Also McClellan could have advanced at the very start for an early knockout which he was proved he can do. Benn went out of the ring, I think Benn would have been knocked out had he not leaned against the ropes.

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                  #18
                  hmm

                  The Benn that fought Eubank in 1990 was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to the Benn that fought under Jimmy Tibbs. Benn, under Tibbs, was a counter-puncher who was always ducking and weaving under punches and never throwing wild punches.

                  Gerald McClellan was a slow-paced boxer-puncher from 1990 to 1994, he was rarely on the front foot and out-jabbed his opponents before planting his feet. It's just that his sense of timing/distance was so insane that he was able to find the right punch to get them out of there very early on (mostly it was his trademark left hook to body).
                  No counter-punching boxing verion of Benn would beat Roy. You're not going to out counter and outbox Roy. Gman had good timing on no one named Roy Jones. Roy's defense is just too good man. His reflexes allow him to see everything coming.

                  But everyone has their opinion and I respect yours.

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                    #19
                    I personally think McClellan would win, and you think Jones would win. Fair enough, but my opinion can't and won't be changed. It's too bad we never got to see the fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      No counter-punching boxing verion of Benn would beat Roy. You're not going to out counter and outbox Roy. Gman had good timing on no one named Roy Jones. Roy's defense is just too good man. His reflexes allow him to see everything coming.

                      But everyone has their opinion and I respect yours.
                      Well, actually, had Benn fought Roy Jones after McClellan he said that his only hope would be to just throw everything at him for three or four rounds and hope for the best. So Benn would of done that, if the Benn vs Jones fight went ahead in 1995/96.

                      And Manny Steward said that he'd have McClellan charge at Roy Jones and go for the early win, because that style had already beaten Roy Jones convincingly when they fought in the amateurs.

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