May 4th card will have Mayweather, Canelo, and Broner fighting on it

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  • Oxn
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    #111
    Originally posted by THE REED™
    Guerrero is more of a threat than he is popular.

    Floyd still wins though.
    Trout is even more of a threat and less popular.

    Thats a fight where i cant pick a winner going into the fight, and thats the kind of fight i want to see.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Oxn
      Trout is even more of a threat and less popular.

      Thats a fight where i cant pick a winner going into the fight, and thats the kind of fight i want to see.
      why is trout more of a threat-because of his size and style? or because he just beat cotto "better" than floyd did?

      I ask because I don't know of a strong JMW he's beaten other than cotto. maybe delvin?

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        #113
        Originally posted by Oxn
        Trout is even more of a threat and less popular.
        Agreed.

        Thats a fight where i cant pick a winner going into the fight, and thats the kind of fight i want to see.
        No.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          why is trout more of a threat-because of his size and style? or because he just beat cotto "better" than floyd did?

          I ask because I don't know of a strong JMW he's beaten other than cotto. maybe delvin?
          To me it's his style... He uses his legs and keeps a distance from a SP stance. For an aging blown up Floyd, it would be a long fight. Still have Floyd winning though mainly by IQ level. The counters would be epic.

          Guerrero is too sloppy, and his stamina isn't great. He starts leaning in on Floyd like he did Berto and he would get painted like the Sistine.

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          • Oxn
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            #115
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            why is trout more of a threat-because of his size and style? or because he just beat cotto "better" than floyd did?

            I ask because I don't know of a strong JMW he's beaten other than cotto. maybe delvin?
            I look at everything.

            So yes style and size is in my calculations. He beat cotto, something i dont believe guerrero can do.

            Guerreros win against aydin was crap, and his win against berto was suprising but the fight was such a mess to see, hbo annuncers really had ppl fooled, it had alot of heart but the fight was a mess.
            Last edited by Oxn; 12-27-2012, 03:50 PM.

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            • -Kev-
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              #116
              If Broner is really gonna be in it, i'm interested to see who Canelo and Broner are fighting. Because this would be a very lucrative card. Unless Canelo, Broner and their opponents are fighting for peanuts, or Floyd is giving up several million dollars from his purse to make a better undercard, I don't see how Canelo and Broner will get competitive opponents. Between Canelo and Broner, I think that's about $4-4.5Mill for both plus the money that goes to their opponents.

              If GBP really does pull off this particular card, and actually get top opponents for Canelo and Broner, then I see why Schaefer said this would be the "biggest boxing event ever". It would be pretty big.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Oxn
                I look at everything.

                So yes style and size is in my calculations. He beat cotto, something i dont believe guerrero can do.

                Guerreros win against aydin was crap, and his win against berto was suprising but the fight was such a mess to see, hbo annuncers really had ppl fooled, it had alot of heart but the fight was a mess.
                vs cotto at 154, I don't think ghost could either.

                As for beating cotto, didn't you expect that? I had him beating cotto before the fight.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Floyd is giving up several million dollars from his purse to make a better undercard, I don't see how Canelo and Broner will get competitive opponents. Between Canelo and Broner, I think that's about $4-4.5Mill for both plus the money that goes to their opponents.
                  IMO it would be wise for Floyd to do so because of his upside with the PPV percentages. Essentially invest in himself. Give a few million away from his guarantee to cover Canelo and Broner... and make up for it in the increase in PPV sales for adding them to the card.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by THE REED™
                    IMO it would be wise for Floyd to do so because of his upside with the PPV percentages. Essentially invest in himself. Give a few million away from his guarantee to cover Canelo and Broner... and make up for it in the increase in PPV sales for adding them to the card.
                    HUge mistake. broner brings no additonal fans to the card. floyd has the urban demographic covered.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      HUge mistake. broner brings no additonal fans to the card. floyd has the urban demographic covered.
                      Then again... how much does Broner really cost?

                      If you ask me, Floyd should pick up Broner under his own banner and groom him as "the next".

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