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  • #31
    So much disrespect for a life long boxing hardcore Harold deserves more respect then this he was scoring fights while most of us were in our dads nutsacks have some respect.

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    • #32
      Harold is good usually, but I think this time he gives too much emphasis to the aggressive part. He always mentions clean effective aggression when he does his spiel on HBO, but he's forgetting how ineffective, slow and plodding Adamek was, and how great Cunningham's steady jab was. I gave it to Cunningham by a couple points. Funny though, I don't see either fighter beating either Klit brother.

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      • #33
        Harold is right, close razor thin fight. My score is exactly like his. Could've been a draw as well since there were several close rounds. Cunningham did alot of running from corner to corner. Someone ought to tell him you can't win a title moving away from corner to corner while grazing w/ the jab occasionally, you have to take it. Throw combinations!

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        • #34
          Adamek clearly won, not sure why people are crying, especially over a runner. The judges made their decision.

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          • #35
            Smh

            Originally posted by happyman View Post
            Adamek clearly won, not sure why people are crying, especially over a runner. The judges made their decision.
            I'm unbiased as I am a fan of both .. Steve controlled the pace , he was affectively boxing and I thought he fought a beautiful fight , he was not running just simply not going toe to toe with someone who outweighs him by 20 pounds .. Adamek was aggressive but he couldn't land anything significant on Cunningham and Steve also landed all the showey shots that mattered .. It wouldn't have been exciting if all Steve did was run ok it was a good scrap to watch .. I didn't have it too close I had Cunningham winning 8 rds to 4 .. Adamek couldn't really get going

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            • #36
              Ledermans track record of scoring fights has ways been suspect. The guy said Pacquiao won fight 4 with Marquez, come on now, lmao!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by MARKBNLV View Post
                So much disrespect for a life long boxing hardcore Harold deserves more respect then this he was scoring fights while most of us were in our dads nutsacks have some respect.
                i have alot of respect for Harold used to think his scores were the gospel but i've seen too many bad cards from him in recent years tbh

                also judging on his comments certain times i think he knows alot about boxing but his advice on what the fighter should or shouldn't be doing sounds ****ing ****** and the kind of thing someone who has never put a pair of gloves on in their life would say

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                • #38
                  I've got respect for Lederman, he's doing something that he's passionate about, he clearly loves the sport and an explanation of how he's reached his decision is always forthcoming. (which is more than we can say about the official ringside judges).

                  However, my scoring diverges from Lederman's, and it is always due to one criteria; aggression. He gives it more prominence than crisp and cleanly landed shots. I don't. Were Harold sees 'effective aggression' I often see folly. He gives the impression that if he was to score The Charge of the Light Brigade, the decision would go the the British.

                  In between rounds, his advice often becomes confused. The specifics of how to apply a craft falls by the wayside. How to produce the kind of fight that Budd Schulberg would like to have written about predominates.

                  I don't always agree with the man's scorecards, and his advice often leaves me shaking my head. But, fair play to the man. He's worked his way into a very privileged position.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                    BETHLEHEM, Pa. -- HBO's unofficial scorer Harold Lederman was at the Sands on Saturday for the Tomasz Adamek-Steve Cunningham rematch on NBC. The fight was originally announced as a split draw before Michael Buffer corrected it to a split decision verdict in favor of Adamek. The boxing world has been up in arms over the decision, calling it a robbery, with most pundits and fans believing Cunningham deserved the nod. BoxingScene.com caught up with Lederman, who scored the fight 115-113 for Adamek from his seat.

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                    respectfully, I strongly disagree with Harold.

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                    • #40
                      I thought it was close but I thought adamek won

                      I had it 115-113 adamek...I thought it could go either way but Cunningham gave away the 11th round running around. Adamek was the aggressor, backed him up & was busy late in rounds. Cunningham had his moments with the jab & landed a few nice rights but he was more interested in being in a track meet then a fight.
                      Last edited by joe strong; 12-27-2012, 12:06 PM.

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