TimeLine of FloydMayweather-Manny Pacquiao 2009-10 !!!

[Goldie]

Floyd ducking Pacquiao is already common knowledge a long time ago. It's already in encyclopedias. Nothing you and I can do about it. So you're just wasting your time and making fools of yourselves defending a guy not even worth defending. His inactivity alone makes most people puke.

Happy New Year!

This is just an example of how pathetic Pacquiao fanboys/Mayweather haters are. They know the truth, but they're satisfied knowing that a lot of general fans don't know the truth. They take comfort in knowing that Arum was been successful in making some people believe that Mayweather is the reason that the fight hasn't happened. They know that Mayweather didn't duck Pacquiao just like they know that it's a good chance that Pacquiao has/is probably used PEDs at some point. They just don't care. The truth is that fanboys like the one above are just like Arum, because they never wanted to see Pacquiao fight Mayweather either. My man, you're so sad it's funny.

[Goldie]

I am in that particular country at this very moment and I don't doubt for one second that the money isn't very important to him.

So why did he reject Mayweather's $40 million offer? If it's not the money, then what was the problem with allowing Mayweather to keep the revenue from ppv? You Pacquiao fans want it both ways, which is no surprise.

[Bullrider]

This is just an example of how pathetic Pacquiao fanboys/Mayweather haters are. They know the truth, but they're satisfied knowing that a lot of general fans don't know the truth. They take comfort in knowing that Arum was been successful in making some people believe that Mayweather is the reason that the fight hasn't happened. They know that Mayweather didn't duck Pacquiao just like they know that it's a good chance that Pacquiao has/is probably used PEDs at some point. They just don't care. The truth is that fanboys like the one above are just like Arum, because they never wanted to see Pacquiao fight Mayweather either. My man, you're so sad it's funny.

What I've been wondering about is why there are people like you. This is not rocket science. If you want something in life you do everything to get it. In Mayweather's case, just the motivation of beating the number one superstar for glory and legacy is weak. It's probably non-existent. Forget about what the whole world wants and what the fight would have meant for the sport. $150 million, according to uncle Roger's guesstimate, didn't even faze him. It's like it was nothing. He kept coming up with roadblocks after roadblocks to avoid the fight. Time to wake up man. This coming year is the best time to. Defending a guy who never wanted the fight is an exercise in futility. You're just hurting yourself.

[Goldie]

What I've been wondering about is why there are people like you. This is not rocket science. If you want something in life you do everything to get it. In Mayweather's case, just the motivation of beating the number one superstar for glory and legacy is weak. It's probably non-existent. Forget about what the whole world wants and what the fight would have meant for the sport. $150 million, according to uncle Roger's guesstimate, didn't even faze him. It's like it was nothing. He kept coming up with roadblocks after roadblocks to avoid the fight. Time to wake up man. This coming year is the best time to. Defending a guy who never wanted the fight is an exercise in futility. You're just hurting yourself.

Same idiotic rhetoric over and over. Obviously Mayweather doesn't and never has felt that the Pacquiao fight is a necessity for him. You aren't debating with people who are claiming that Mayweather was willing to do whatever it took to make the fight with Pacquiao. It's clear that Mayweather was not willing to do whatever it took to make the fight. However, it's also clear that Pacquiao and Arum were not willing to do whatever it took to make the fight either. The problem with fanboys like you is that you're not objective. You don't hold Mayweather and Pacquiao to the same standard. To let you tell it, Pacquiao get's a pass for not doing everything that he could have done to make the fight while Mayweather doesn't. You're cool with with playing the fanboy blame game instead of just being honest about the situation. Let's be honest for a second. Mayweather not bending over backwards to make a fight with Pacquiao is not the same as ducking Pacquiao. Asking for a more stringent drug test is not a roadblock unless you're trying to negotiate that stipulation with someone who is cheating. If you're going to blame Mayweather for not doing everything in his power to make the fight, then blame Pacquiao as well. Stop being an irrational fanboy and try to think like a regular boxing fan.

[Bullrider]

Glad to hear you admit Mayweather didn't really want it. It takes two to tango. One guy bends and the other guy always finds excuses not to dance. "Take the test and we have a fight", "14 days has expired!", "I'm taking a long vacation and spend some time with my family!", "I want $100 million!", "Arum has to disappear first!", "I want 100% PPV!" Man is this the picture of a guy who is desperate for the fight? What's next? "The $40 million offer has expired!"

[Goldie]

Glad to hear you admit Mayweather didn't really want it. It takes two to tango. One guy bends and the other guy always finds excuses not to dance. "Take the test and we have a fight", "14 days has expired!", "I'm taking a long vacation and spend some time with my family!", "I want $100 million!", "Arum has to disappear first!", "I want 100% PPV!" Man is this the picture of a guy who is desperate for the fight? What's next? "The $40 million offer has expired!"

That's not what I said but I understand that youre not smart enough to read and comprehend well. I said that neither Mayweather or Pacquiao has shown that they are willing to do whatever it takes to make the fight happen. That is not the same as saying that neither of them want the fight. I doubt that you're IQ is above 80.

[Deevel916]

Had Floyd approached this fight the way he approached every single fight up until the first negetiations began with Pac, we would have seen this fight by now plus possibly a rematch and trilogy. Facts are facts, it was FLOYD who created the initial roadblock by demanding something he has never asked of any fighter and without any merit. Floyd bums can say "well Pac demanded an overweight penalty of $10mil per lb.". Do u blame him after what he did to JMM? In the video that's been posted several times, u can hear and see the fear when floyd speaks about how Pac just walked thru cotto and knocked shane down when cotto couldn't even do it.

And for the record, the last negotiations went like this:

Floyd: "just take the test and we have a fight"

Pac: "I have agreed to all of Floyds demands. I want to put on a good fight because that's what the fans want to see"

Floyd: "Pac (the #2 ppv draw in the world and all time overall ppv champ) gets no cut of the ppv revenue!


And for the record, I don't know where u floydbums are getting your info from. Pac never refused to be tested. Up for debate was a cutoff date. Floyd went as low as 14 and when Pac accepted floyd changed his stance to No Cutoff date. And what did the floydbums say? "Well pac should have taken the offer when it was given!". Rather than calling their master out on it and tell him to just get in the ring with Pac already insteading of creating 101 obstacles!

[Bullrider]

It's clear that Mayweather was not willing to do whatever it took to make the fight.

Very true. You don't have to go far to find the answers. It's in your own backyard. In life if you want something bad enough like a job, for example, you don't make "take it or leave it" stances. That just meant you're just acting like you really want to work.

[Goldie]

Had Floyd approached this fight the way he approached every single fight up until the first negetiations began with Pac, we would have seen this fight by now plus possibly a rematch and trilogy. Facts are facts, it was FLOYD who created the initial roadblock by demanding something he has never asked of any fighter and without any merit. Floyd bums can say "well Pac demanded an overweight penalty of $10mil per lb.". Do u blame him after what he did to JMM? In the video that's been posted several times, u can hear and see the fear when floyd speaks about how Pac just walked thru cotto and knocked shane down when cotto couldn't even do it.

And for the record, the last negotiations went like this:

Floyd: "just take the test and we have a fight"

Pac: "I have agreed to all of Floyds demands. I want to put on a good fight because that's what the fans want to see"

Floyd: "Pac (the #2 ppv draw in the world and all time overall ppv champ) gets no cut of the ppv revenue!

How ****** are you? Has Mayweather's stipulation of random blood and urine testing been a roadblock for any of Mayweather's opponents since? The testing request was only a roadblock because Pacquiao made it one. It wasn't a roadblock for Mosley, Ortiz, or Cotto. There has been only one round of negotiations and Pacquiao walked away from those negotiations because he was scared of being caught using PEDs. Some of you are either scared of the truth, or just to dumb to separate the truth from what you want to believe.

[Deevel916]

How ****** are you? Has Mayweather's stipulation of random blood and urine testing been a roadblock for any of Mayweather's opponents since? The testing request was only a roadblock because Pacquiao made it one. It wasn't a roadblock for Mosley, Ortiz, or Cotto. There has been only one round of negotiations and Pacquiao walked away from those negotiations because he was scared of being caught using PEDs. Some of you are either scared of the truth, or just to dumb to separate the truth from what you want to believe.

It wasn't an issue with them because they were blinded by the money they would make and had zero leverage at the time unlike Pac. Let's also not act as if floyd didn't demand they test in order to save face from it being the reason why the fight with Pac never happened. Facts are facts! Floyd competed in 40 pro fights and when it was time to face Pac, floyd spoke of him like he was kryptonite!

Floyd: "how does a guy like Pac go from ordinary to extrordinary!".

Floyd Sr: "I fear for my sons life if he fights that man!".

2 actual quotes from father and son. Look it up! ;-)


If u think there was ony 1 round of negotiations then u just started watching boxing less than a year ago. Even the former CEO of HBO sports went on the record after the 2nd round to say "you're going to have to ask Floyd why negotiations fell apart!"