Sergio Matrinez Record is Soooo Heavily Padded

[Phenom]

why would anyone want sergio to fight dzinziruk? they weren't even in the same division and no one cared about dzinziruk. that was a cherry pick extraordinaire.

dzinziruk was undefeated and very hyped at 154 kind of like Lara and Pirog were people around here were calling for that fight but ofcourse after geting knocked out he is called a bum

[RapidFire26]

He came on late in his career. I think for a while he was getting overrated but now days he seems to be rated fairly and most people dont consider him an ATG but consider him a good fighter which he is. I think Winky was a better fighter just as a comparison for example

Even many of his biggest fans on here said he was no ATG. At least not yet.

[MJ223]

bull.........at middleweight he could have fought Geale, Pirog, Golovkin. all A class middleweights.

& rating someone based on ability is like me saying broner is p4p number 5 due to potential and ability........same thing.

[GrandpaBernard]

He would look nowhere near as good if he was in there with elites

[daggum]

dzinziruk was undefeated and very hyped at 154 kind of like Lara and Pirog were people around here were calling for that fight but ofcourse after geting knocked out he is called a bum

dzinziruk had no hype. he was champ for years and no one cared about him. after the martinez-dzinziruk fight was made people started singing his praises but not before. no one wanted that fight and no one was saying martinez was ducking dzinziruk. they were saying he was ducking pirog because he was to take an easy fight against a 154 pounder with a robot style.

[Phenom]

dzinziruk had no hype. he was champ for years and no one cared about him. after the martinez-dzinziruk fight was made people started singing his praises but not before. no one wanted that fight and no one was saying martinez was ducking dzinziruk. they were saying he was ducking pirog because he was to take an easy fight against a 154 pounder with a robot style.

Martinez weighs in at 157 his last fight against Williams so there was no "fighting a 154 pounder" complaint I really think that had he fought a Pirog instead and dzinziruk was still undefeated today you would flipped your argument there is really no pleasing some fans

[daggum]

Martinez weighs in at 157 his last fight against Williams so there was no "fighting a 154 pounder" complaint I really think that had he fought a Pirog instead and dzinziruk was still undefeated today you would flipped your argument there is really no pleasing some fans

that's because williams wanted a catchweight. martinez was fighting at 160. dzinziruk at 154. why would i want martinez to fight a 154 pound fighter instead of a top middleweight belt holder? makes no sense. that's like saying i want canelo to fight senchenko instead of trout. why would anyone want that?

[Phenom]

that's because williams wanted a catchweight. martinez was fighting at 160. dzinziruk at 154. why would i want martinez to fight a 154 pound fighter instead of a top middleweight belt holder? makes no sense. that's like saying i want canelo to fight senchenko instead of trout. why would anyone want that?

why would Pirog be a Top middleweight by beating a prospect for the belt Martinez vacated a few months earlier how is he comparable to Trout?

if anything that fight is like Martinez fighting Trout right now I don' think many people would complain about Martinez vs trout until after Martinez wins ofcourse

[kiaba360]

He would look nowhere near as good if he was in there with elites

It's very rare when true "elite" fighters find themselves in the same division at the same time. According to my definition of "elite", there are only a couple near his division: Mayweather and Ward. There are none in his division. I don't consider Martinez to be an elite, and I don't think he has the time to achieve that status. That doesn't mean that he isn't of a higher caliber than the majority, but he just isn't part of that few at the top of the mountain. I think beating two of the titlists (Geale/Golovkin/Quillin) would give him that push he needs to make a fight with a notable name at 154. I still think that Canelo will fight Sergio when he starts to visibly decline. All Martinez has to do is bide his time and stay healthy. Cleaning out the MW division will make Sergio a valuable commodity, but the right fights have to be made in order for him to get that opportunity.

[pnksntdead]

he's definitely a fine fighter and a top 10 pfp but i would have him a bit lower on the pfp ranking than most just because of lack of top competition. i don't see him as being in same class as jmm, floyd or ward right now, but if he has a a couple of good wins..